Cincinnati Masters 2025, Ohio, US - ATP Masters 1000

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First of all, the equipment isn't that expensive. Drama in tennis is good. Useless theatrics is not, which might be what he's talking about, at least in terms of himself. :face-with-tears-of-joy:
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I think it is safe to say after Atmane won his match against Rune in straight sets, he will get a sponsor for shoes, clothing and no doubt will get an agent
 
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Atmane up to world no 69 in the live rankings, beating back to back Top Ten Players in Fritz and Rune
However, he will be in qualifying for the USO next week
 

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Well, this makes me feel a bit better about Fonseca's loss to Atmane. A bit.
 

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A bit on Fonseca. One of the things that makes me optimistic, is when I try to "steel man" the view that he's going to be an elite player, it is hard to come up with an argument or scenario where he doesn't, at the very least, become a top 10 player. The only things that I can think of are injury (a concern for every player) and if he sort of rides the hype too long, and doesn't work hard enough, and when he finally does, it is too late - he missed crucial developmental time (18-21ish).

There is nothing to make me too worried about injury, or more than any other young player. And while I think the hype train has to be navigated, he seems serious about developing his game. After beating Rublev at the AO and then his first title, he was floating a bit. But in the few quotes I've read, I think he's expressed that he realizes that the work continues, and that every loss is useful information to work with. Meaning, I think he's recalibrated from the hype and cloud of initial flash.

The point being, the future still looks very bright - no less bright than six months ago. It is just tempered a bit by the reality of what it requires for ANY young player, no matter how talented, to rise to the elite. The Nadals and Alcarazs are exceedingly rare, and even they had developmental periods longer than where Fonseca is at, in terms of match experience. Alcaraz didn't win his first Masters until around his 70th ATP match, Nadal a bit after his 100th match. Fonseca still has about 20 matches before he's on the "Carlos Clock"...meaning, not until the first half of next year. And the Rafa Clock won't start until late next year (and Novak Clock not long after that...not to mention the Roger Clock, which is more like 2028 for Fonseca).

I'd be happy with the following timeline:

Rest of 2025: Glimmers of improvement, maybe at least one deeper run at one of the remaining three big events (not including the TF), or at least overall stronger runs than previously. A top 30 finish would be nice, but if he just maintains his current race ranking of #36 (or top 40), that's just fine.
2026: More minor titles, and lots of QF or better runs. A Masters would be nice and quite plausible, but isn't absolutely necessary. I'd like to see a top 20 finish, ideally on the higher side.
2027: This is the year that I think he "has to" win at least a Masters to stay on an elite trajectory. Maybe not has to, but it would be strongly indicative. Top 10 is the goal (for my expectation!)
2028: This is the year I'd like to see him be a true elite player: a contender at Masters and a threat at Slams. Top 5, baby.
2029: This would be the year that if he hasn't won a Grand Slam by this year, I think his ceiling is more limited than hoped and his ultimate outlook is more as a good second tier/bridge player. Legit #1 candidate.
 

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All this talent & Carlos continues to allow players out of his class to extend him! I turned away after the 3rd set Brk. of Rublev thinking "this match is over!" I turn back & Rublev is serving to get into a TB! WTF? Alcaraz at MP finally! It's OVER on a predictable double fault! :angry-face::fearful-face::fearful-face::yawningface:
 
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Rublev pushed Carlos all the way, Carlos served for the match 5-4 3rd set, broken back to 5 all,
Rublev to serve to force a TB for the 3rd set, a poor service game, after his serve held up well, Carlos broke to win 7-5
Carlos needs to step up in his SF match
Alcaraz d Rublev 64 36 75
 
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My Spanish tennis friend just texted me he was also at the Mens Wimbledon final this year,

"Alcaraz is an absolute master at solving disasters of his own making" :)
 
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Zverev in total control of the match against Shelton even had the doctor for his breathing problems
This will bring Shelton back down to reality he faced a sub par KAA in the Toronto final he had no game plan at all in this match
 

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Zverev in total control of the match against Shelton even had the doctor for his breathing problems
This will bring Shelton back down to reality he faced a sub par KAA in the Toronto final he had no game plan at all in this match
I was curious about this. Has diabetes, but does he also have asthma? Why the inhaler?
 

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I was curious about this. Has diabetes, but does he also have asthma? Why the inhaler?
I am not sure he has asthma? I am aware he has diabetes I will have to check, anyway it helped
No he dosent have asthma, I know he suffered from pneumonia that was back in 2024, which of course affects your lungs and breathing capacity
 

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I am not sure he has asthma? I am aware he has diabetes I will have to check, anyway it helped
No he dosent have asthma, I know he suffered from pneumonia that was back in 2024, which of course affects your lungs and breathing capacity
Well, don't tell @Front242, then, that he was using an inhaler, because he'll have all kind of conspiracy theories. :face-with-tears-of-joy:
 

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All this talent & Carlos continues to allow players out of his class to extend him! I turned away after the 3rd set Brk. of Rublev thinking "this match is over!" I turn back & Rublev is serving to get into a TB! WTF? Alcaraz at MP finally! It's OVER on a predictable double fault! :angry-face::fearful-face::fearful-face::yawningface:
Yeah, Carlos could do with spending half a day with Pete Sampras, learning the benefits of being economical - and cruel. But he’s also a player with a big target on his back, for a long time now. He’s a notch on the bedpost. Players raise their games against him, and the nature of his game is that he gives them shots…
 

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I forgot to add,
Marat Safin has got his visa into the USA and will be coaching Rublev at the USO
 
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Ben Fatto Jannik and Buon Compleanno Jannik turning 24 today
Reaching another Cincy final 76 (4) 62 against the Q Atmane, who came out swinging in the 1st set, you weathered the 'storm'
Atmane will be playing qualifies at the USO on Monday, what a tournament he has had defeating 2 top ten players back to back
 

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Apparently in his warm up Zverev having back problems and stopped? news from Sky , am trying to find out any up to date news
I cant find any further news, though Zverev will have a ready made excuse I guess if he loses :)
Rain delay though it should not last long
Play to start at 6.15pm ( hopefully)
 
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