Miami Open, Miami, FL, 2024 - ATP Masters 1000

[MargaretMcAleer]

Sinner is totally bossing him around the court today.

So far this is the best match Jannik has played all tournament ( I hope he has some left making the final

 

[tossip]

So far this is the best match Jannik has played all tournament ( I hope he has some left making the final

Yes..I never seen Meddy looking this defeated.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Yes..I never seen Meddy looking this defeated.

Indeed, though Jannik was 'on' from the start of the match and he never let Meddy into the match

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Well done Jannik that was a great match from the start to the end, not letting Meddy into the match 61 62
Back in the final at Miami, if you win the title you will surpass Alcaraz as the No 2 player
Forza Jannik!

 

[Moxie]

He took Medvedev to the woodshed. They said this score equals the worst losses of Daniil's career. I remember the final v. Rafa at Roger's Cup in 2019. The other v. Dolgopolov, so a long time ago.

 

[Moxie]

Well done Jannik that was a great match from the start to the end, not letting Meddy into the match 61 62
Back in the final at Miami, if you win the title you will surpass Alcaraz as the No 2 player
Forza Jannik!

The best player so far this year is Sinner, for sure. I see the #1 coming this year.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

The best player so far this year is Sinner, for sure. I see the #1 coming this year.

He has been the best player so far this year, still a long way to go, I would love him to win the title in Miami, first things first , he can become No 2 if he wins the title

 

[El Dude]

The best player so far this year is Sinner, for sure. I see the #1 coming this year.

Yup, me too. I'm still kicking myself (sorta) for not sticking with my gut, in the rankings competition. I balked last second and changed #1 to Alcaraz.

Ultimate Tennis Statistics hasn't updated their Elo rating all year, but Sinner's definitely surged past the 2300 level, so into the top 30 all-time. Tennis Abstract his him #1 in Elo at 2240 (their number is about 100 points lower than UTS), which is higher than Alcaraz's best.

I'm also remembering how I shared a chart comparing Jannik's and Roger's Elo rating through their careers, and how closely Jannik mirrored Roger's rise. Here are a few charts, taken from UTS (so only through 2023):

So now Jannik is a bit over halfway to 23 and probably around 2350 now, so he's really closely following Roger's path. Will be interesting to see high he goes.

 

[Moxie]

Yup, me too. I'm still kicking myself (sorta) for not sticking with my gut, in the rankings competition. I balked last second and changed #1 to Alcaraz.

Ultimate Tennis Statistics hasn't updated their Elo rating all year, but Sinner's definitely surged past the 2300 level, so into the top 30 all-time. Tennis Abstract his him #1 in Elo at 2240 (their number is about 100 points lower than UTS), which is higher than Alcaraz's best.

I'm also remembering how I shared a chart comparing Jannik's and Roger's Elo rating through their careers, and how closely Jannik mirrored Roger's rise. Here are a few charts, taken from UTS (so only through 2023):

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So now Jannik is a bit over halfway to 23 and probably around 2350 now, so he's really closely following Roger's path. Will be interesting to see high he goes.

I already forgot who I picked, but probably Alcaraz.

I'm not sure when you say "how high he goes," if you mean tennis level or numbers, or both, but I definitely feel that Sinner is still improving his tennis.

 

[El Dude]

I already forgot who I picked, but probably Alcaraz.

I'm not sure when you say "how high he goes," if you mean tennis level or numbers, or both, but I definitely feel that Sinner is still improving his tennis.

I was talking about Elo as a representation of his tennis level (the chart). Elo as "consistent level of play over a recent period of time." I emphasize consistency, because Elo likes players such as Ferrer more than Wawrinka, because Ferrer was better in terms of his consistent level. Stanimal was so up and down - the best player in the world for a match or tournament, than just a #10-20 guy for months on end.

 

[Moxie]

I was talking about Elo as a representation of his tennis level (the chart). Elo as "consistent level of play over a recent period of time." I emphasize consistency, because Elo likes players such as Ferrer more than Wawrinka, because Ferrer was better in terms of his consistent level. Stanimal was so up and down - the best player in the world for a match or tournament, than just a #10-20 guy for months on end.

But isn't it more interesting how high his tennis talent goes?

 

[Moxie]

Tight first set, but Sasha gives up the UFEs, and Dimitrov takes the first set. I don't always root for Dimitrov, but I am here.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Tight first set, but Sasha gives up the UFEs, and Dimitrov takes the first set. I don't always root for Dimitrov, but I am here.

Looked like pressure got to Zverev, in that game, Dimi takes the 1st set 64, Dimi does have a 'high risk game', everything has to be 'on song' or else

 

[Moxie]

OMG, Courier eulogizing Dimitrov on TC. He says he's got nothing to regret, only that he fell into an era of ATGs. IMO, this is BS. He was barely in the conversation, and he should have been. He didn't just lose to the Big 3/4, right?

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

OMG, Courier eulogizing Dimitrov on TC. He says he's got nothing to regret, only that he fell into an era of ATGs. IMO, this is BS. He was barely in the conversation, and he should have been. He didn't just lose to the Big 3/4, right?

Courier needs look at the stats before he opens his mouth right? I usually mute him when he is on a match, he is 'soo full of himself"
Serena in the house BTW to watch Dimi

 

[El Dude]

But isn't it more interesting how high his tennis talent goes?

I'm going to gently roll my eyes here. Of course. What gave you the impression that I would think otherwise? Stats don't inhabit that - they just give us something to balance our subjective impressions with.

 

[Moxie]

I'm going to gently roll my eyes here. Of course. What gave you the impression that I would think otherwise? Stats don't inhabit that - they just give us something to balance our subjective impressions with.

I'm going to hard roll my eyes because you started talking again about the ELO and Ferrer and Wawrinka. I'm sort of just trying to talk about Sinner.

 

[Moxie]

Rubber hitting the road here. Heading for a TB?

 

[Moxie]

Dimitrov holds to love, with the ace, for 6-5.

 

[tossip]

Dimi better be careful he really played well to be in this position.