Covid vaccine - opinions?

[MargaretMcAleer]

My daughter took the Pfizer booster vaccine shot really zero side effects. I guess our 20 year age difference was a major factor

No not really, with any vaccine or medication there are always side effects, it is how our bodies metabolize them,

 

[the AntiPusher]

No not really, with any vaccine or medication there are always side effects, it is how our bodies metabolize them,

Well MM that's so odd about this latest vaccine..I am usually experiencing minimal side effects.. hopefully I have turn the corner.. probably can't make it to tennis practice tonight

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Well MM that's so odd about this latest vaccine..I am usually experiencing minimal side effects.. hopefully I have turn the corner.. probably can't make it to tennis practice tonight

I would not go to tennis practice if you are still experiencing muscle pain for starters

 

[the AntiPusher]

I am not a fan of Pfizer full stop, surely you could get another vaccine as a booster

I'm not taking another vaccine booster shot this decade. I'm Done!

 

[kskate2]

My daughter took the Pfizer booster vaccine shot really zero side effects. I guess our 20 year age difference was a major factor

So sorry you're feeling yucky. Nothing to really do w/ age AP. I'm north of 53 and had the Pfizer as my first 2 shots and a Moderna as a booster. No side affects w/ any of them. I only took one booster because I'm waiting on a protein based shot like Novavax going forward.

 

[Federberg]

 

[britbox]

Disease X looks like it will be next on the chaos agenda.

 

[the AntiPusher]

I would not go to tennis practice if you are still experiencing muscle pain for starters

I took your advice MM .. it's been an entire week since that shot, back aches still persistent but pain is about 2/10... hopefully the weekend will finally put an end to this sore back..

 

[Horsa]

I took your advice MM .. it's been an entire week since that shot, back aches still persistent but pain is about 2/10... hopefully the weekend will finally put an end to this sore back..

I'm very sorry to hear you haven't been feeling well & hope you feel better soon.

 

[Federberg]

worth a read...

 

[Moxie]

worth a read...

What do you take away from that?

 

[Federberg]

What do you take away from that?

I honestly don't know what to think. But I was drawn to this bit...

FYI out of the many millions of Pzr shits administered in Australia in two years, there has officially been zero adverse reactions leading to death or disability. Zero. Out of 20,000,000 plus. Zero. Think!

 

[Kieran]

I think it’s fairly clear what is saying, isn’t it? If the details are correct then a lot of people conspired to direct the patient and her family - and everybody else - away from thinking that vaccine adversely affected her, all the way until she died. It’s like the Department of Labor in America, telling employers they don’t have to report adverse effects because “OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers' vaccination efforts.”

It’s like all the many doctors I’ve heard of over here telling patients it’s not the vaccine that’s wrong with you, must be something else.

The vaccine that girl apparently died from is no longer recommended there..

 

[El Dude]

I honestly don't know what to think. But I was drawn to this bit...

FYI out of the many millions of Pzr shits administered in Australia in two years, there has officially been zero adverse reactions leading to death or disability. Zero. Out of 20,000,000 plus. Zero. Think!

I didn't know Pfizer gave you the shits. Can someone verify? Anecdotal evidence is fine, but peer reviewed studies are even better.

 

[Moxie]

I heard a very interesting piece on a show on my local public radio station today. I know I've turned Federberg onto Brian Lehrer, but he is about the smartest and most fair person out there. He might be the most trusted man in the NYC area. This is an interview with Dr. Peter Hotez.

Fighting for Science | The Brian Lehrer Show | WNYC

A scientist speaks from the frontlines of the fight against vaccines, and other scientific misinformation.

www.wnyc.org

The blurb:

"From the frontlines of the fight against vaccine, and other scientific misinformation, Peter Hotez, MD, PhD, founding dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine, co-director of the Texas Children's Center for Vaccine Development, and professor of pediatrics and molecular virology and microbiology at Baylor College of Medicine and the author of The Deadly Rise of Anti-Science: A Scientist's Warning (Johns Hopkins University Press, 2023), offers a framework for separating the politics from the science."

Dr. Hotez developed a Covid vaccine outside of big pharma, amongst other things. He also has an autistic child and speaks directly to the science discounting that being vaccine-related, (though I don't think anyone here still believes that.)

He has an illuminating take on anti-science, and the convergence with politics. If you can spare 33 minutes.

 

[El Dude]

Peter Hotez, oh boy. That guy is pretty much the embodiment of Big Pharma propaganda, using BS rhetoric like "anti-science."

He's a total authoritarian, advocating vax mandates, lockdowns, masks, etc. He's a Pfizer guy, not a real health guy. I wouldn't take anything he says as anything other than an attempt to earn profits for Big Pharma...and that's a charitable reading.

 

[El Dude]

Here's a two-part video on Hotez from investigative journalist Dan Cohen.

Part One gives some background, while Part Two really illustrates what a psychopath he is. The Mengele of the Vax Cult...haha.

 

[El Dude]

Finally, here's a spoof on Hotez and his ever-changing "advice":

 

[El Dude]

And lest people forget the insanity of mainstream messaging over the last few years....

 

[Kieran]

And lest people forget the insanity of mainstream messaging over the last few years....

That’s a great video. It should come with a trigger warning. All the stupid, loaded, totally dishonest phrases. Literally stupid, “nobody is safe until everybody is safe.” What kind of illiterate person thinks in these terms. What are we, children? We can’t be kept safe from everything. The “pandemic of the unvaccinated”. Until the honchos start sneezing.

Tell me this: did any of these lying c**ts ever apologise? Did a single one of them ever say, oops? So much anger and fury and stupidity. The usual suspects there, of course. They’re like a runaway train of demented parrots…