The Rankings Thread (ATP)

[herios]

New Career highs this week, July 3, 2017:

44. Yuichi Sugita 28y
49. Daniil Medvedev 21y
91. Thomas Fabbioano 28y

The performer of the week, Sugita has a remarkable surge into the top 50. He is still a newcomer into the top elite, entering the top 100 last year at the age of 27.

 

[herios]

New career highs as of July 17, 2017:

16. Pablo Carreno Busta 26y
22. Gilles Muller 34y
28. Misha Zverev 29y
33. Karen Khachanov 21y
40. Ryan Harrison 25y
43. Yuichi Sugita 28y
58. Jared Donaldson 20y
62. Frances Tiafoe 19y
64. Rogerio Dutra Silva 33y
67. Ernesto Escobedo 21y
74. Andrey Rublev 19y
86. Thomas Fabbiano 28y
87. Norbert Gombos 26y
99. Marton Fucsovics 25y
100. Henri Laksonen 25y

There are 15 guys listed in total, I cannot recall so many listed at once who reached a career high.
Two new entrants at the bottom, Fucsovics from Hungary and Laksonen from Switzerland.

 

[britbox]

 

[Front242]

New career highs as of July 17, 2017:

16. Pablo Carreno Busta 26y
22. Gilles Muller 34y
28. Misha Zverev 29y
33. Karen Khachanov 21y
40. Ryan Harrison 25y
43. Yuichi Sugita 28y
58. Jared Donaldson 20y
62. Frances Tiafoe 19y
64. Rogerio Dutra Silva 33y
67. Ernesto Escobedo 21y
74. Andrey Rublev 19y
86. Thomas Fabbiano 28y
87. Norbert Gombos 26y
99. Marton Fucsovics 25y
100. Henri Laksonen 25y

There are 15 guys listed in total, I cannot recall so many listed at once who reached a career high.
Two new entrants at the bottom, Fucsovics from Hungary and Laksonen from Switzerland.

Good going by Marton Fucsovics, who just plays tennis for the Fucsovit

 

[Federberg]

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2017...nd-volley-baseline-next-gen-atp-tennis/67843/

Just makes me respect the old man even more...

 

[GameSetAndMath]

The bookies are giving 4/9 odds for Fed to finish as YE #1. That is about 69% chances to finish as YE #1.

 

[Front242]

Given the state of Murray and Djokovic who the hell could possibly win the WTF besides Roger. That's potentially the full 1500 points for starters there and he should win Cinci too. Should clean up this hard court season on paper and has zero points to defend. The bookies odds seem an accurate reflection of the probability imo.

 

[herios]

New career highs as of July 24 2017:

15. Pablo Carreno-Busta 26y
25. Misha Zverev 29y
32. Karen Khachanov 21y
48. Daniil Medvedev 21y
49. Andrey Rublev 19y
60. Frances Tiafoe 19y
63.Rogerio Dutra-Silva 33y
65. Pierre Hugues Herbert 26y
84. Alessandro Giannessi 27y
91. Laslo Djere 22y
95. Henri Laksonen 25y

Highlight of the week in rankings is the big jump of Rublev, after his title in Umag.
A new entrant this week in the top 100 is Serbian Djere.

 

[Busted]

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2017...nd-volley-baseline-next-gen-atp-tennis/67843/

Just makes me respect the old man even more...

I saw the video on YouTube. I think he also made it pretty clear that the fault is as much the younger players and coaches as it is the ranking system. Start teaching these guys an all-court game so they can adapt when they face the top guys and not have to play the same style every time. Some of these guys literally have no net skills and therefore no option to come to net.

Plus, to my mind, the tournament directors are part of the problem, too. They're in favor of maintaining the status quo because otherwise they would speed up the courts again to make upsets easier. They're protecting their bottom line though because they need to turn a profit or else their tourney isn't going to be around very long. Nobody in Cinci or IW or Miami is going to pay to see a final between #27 and #42. If it's a 250 event and you know the top guys aren't there anyway then you're not going to be ticked off when they're not in the final. But those Masters events? They all know who's making them money - and it ain't guys ranked outside the top 5.

 

[herios]

Career high this week, July 31, 2017:

21. Gilles Muller 34y
30. Karen Khachanov 21y
86. Norbert Gombos 26y

 

[GameSetAndMath]

After Montreal is done and dusted, either Andy or Rafa will be #1. Fed cannot become #1 even if he wins the title in Montreal.

In order for Rafa to become #1, one of the following three scenarios should happen.

1. Rafa should win Montreal. Does not matter what Murray does.

2. Rafa loses in finals and Andy loses at QF or earlier or does not play in Montreal.

3. Rafa loses in SF and Andy loses his opening match or does not play at all.

If Rafa cannot reach even SF, Andy will be #1 even if he does not play in Montreal.

 

[Shivashish Sarkar]

If Roger gets a great run from here to US Open, I think he will be no. 1 again by then, is not that a possibility?

 

[mrzz]

If Roger gets a great run from here to US Open, I think he will be no. 1 again by then, is not that a possibility?

After US Open surely is possible -- I dare to say even likely. I would guess it is also quite possible right after Cincinnati.

 

[Moxie]

Just doing the math, if Djokovic has really closed down his year, he's defending 3,740 points going forward. That will leave him with 1,585 by year's end. Surely that will push him out of the top 10, unless multiple players implode. On the other hand, he's going to have essentially nothing to defend next year, so, if he comes back fit and hungry, he should recoup ground quickly.

 

[mrzz]

Just doing the math, if Djokovic has really closed down his year, he's defending 3,740 points going forward. That will leave him with 1,585 by year's end. Surely that will push him out of the top 10, unless multiple players implode. On the other hand, he's going to have essentially nothing to defend next year, so, if he comes back fit and hungry, he should recoup ground quickly.

He probably has 2740 points to defend, as according to live-rankings he has exactly 2585 points on the Race -- which means that he will end up the year exactly with that if he stops playing now. As far as seeding for AO is concerned, I would guess we still need to consider the points from Doha -- but I am not sure.

Anyway 2585 points would leave him in 13 right now, and 2335 (=2585-250) exactly tied for 16, so good chance that he is reasonably well seeded for the AO (too bad, as like those odd early heavy-weight matches).

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Stan has 3150 points and Novak has 2585 points in the race. That will be their ranking points at the beginning of 2018 as they have called it an year. Based on the end of the year 2016 rankings as a guide, this should fetch Stan a #10 ranking and Novak a #12 ranking when they begin next year.

 

[britbox]

Rankings - Aug 7

1 (1) Andy Murray(Britain) 7750
2 (2) Rafa Nadal(Spain) 7465
3 (3) Roger Federer(Switzerland) 6545
4 (4) Stan Wawrinka(Switzerland) 5780
5 (5) Novak Djokovic(Serbia) 5325
6 (6) Marin Cilic(Croatia) 5155
7 (7) Dominic Thiem(Austria) 4065
8 (8) Alexander Zverev(Germany) 3560
9 (9) Kei Nishikori(Japan) 3320
10 (10) Milos Raonic(Canada) 3220
11 (11) Grigor Dimitrov(Bulgaria) 3070
12 (12) Jo-Wilfried Tsonga(France) 2805
13 (13) David Goffin(Belgium) 2560
14 (14) Tomas Berdych(Czech Republic) 2480
15 (15) Pablo Carreno(Spain) 2350
16 (16) Roberto Bautista(Spain) 2335
17 (19) Jack Sock(U.S.) 2335
18 (17) Lucas Pouille(France) 2255
19 (18) John Isner(U.S.) 2145
20 (24) Sam Querrey(U.S.) 1990
21 (21) Gilles Muller(Luxembourg) 1930
22 (22) Gael Monfils(France) 1915
23 (23) Albert Ramos(Spain) 1815
24 (20) Nick Kyrgios(Australia) 1680
25 (25) Fabio Fognini(Italy) 1545
26 (26) Mischa Zverev(Germany) 1461
27 (27) Pablo Cuevas(Uruguay) 1425
28 (28) Feliciano Lopez(Spain) 1390
29 (29) Richard Gasquet(France) 1390
30 (30) Karen Khachanov(Russia) 1330
31 (32) Juan Martin del Potro(Argentina) 1325
32 (45) Kevin Anderson(South Africa) 1260
33 (33) David Ferrer(Spain) 1255
34 (31) Ivo Karlovic(Croatia) 1250
35 (34) Steve Johnson(U.S.) 1205
36 (35) Diego Schwartzman(Argentina) 1180
37 (47) Philipp Kohlschreiber(Germany) 1135
38 (36) Paolo Lorenzi(Italy) 1123
39 (37) Gilles Simon(France) 1120
40 (38) Fernando Verdasco(Spain) 1115
41 (39) Benoit Paire(France) 1085
42 (42) Adrian Mannarino(France) 1031
43 (41) Kyle Edmund(Britain) 1023
44 (40) Ryan Harrison(U.S.) 1018
45 (43) Viktor Troicki(Serbia) 1000
46 (44) Yuichi Sugita(Japan) 978
47 (46) Aljaz Bedene(Britain) 958
48 (50) Daniil Medvedev(Russia) 957
49 (48) Jiri Vesely(Czech Republic) 910
50 (49) Leonardo Mayer(Argentina) 907
51 (62) Joao Sousa(Portugal) 890
52 (52) Robin Haase(Netherlands) 888
53 (51) Andrey Rublev(Russia) 888
54 (53) Jan-Lennard Struff(Germany) 883
55 (54) Borna Coric(Croatia) 876
56 (56) Chung Hyeon(South Korea) 861
57 (59) Florian Mayer(Germany) 833
58 (60) Janko Tipsarevic(Serbia) 825
59 (57) Horacio Zeballos(Argentina) 823
60 (55) Steve Darcis(Belgium) 821
61 (58) Donald Young(U.S.) 820
62 (61) Federico Delbonis(Argentina) 815
63 (63) Nikoloz Basilashvili(Georgia) 735
64 (64) Rogerio Dutra Silva(Brazil) 733
65 (65) Daniel Evans(Britain) 722
66 (69) Jared Donaldson(U.S.) 720
67 (66) Andrey Kuznetsov(Russia) 715
68 (71) Dusan Lajovic(Serbia) 711
69 (68) Pierre-Hugues Herbert(France) 707
70 (89) Lu Yen-Hsun(Taiwan) 696
71 (70) Alexandr Dolgopolov(Ukraine) 691
72 (77) Marcos Baghdatis(Cyprus) 690
73 (87) Damir Dzumhur(Bosnia and Herzegovina) 685
74 (80) Thomaz Bellucci(Brazil) 682
75 (72) Vasek Pospisil(Canada) 672
76 (73) Malek Jaziri(Tunisia) 669
77 (74) Dudi Sela(Israel) 660
78 (75) Jordan Thompson(Australia) 656
79 (76) Jeremy Chardy(France) 655
80 (78) Nicolas Kicker(Argentina) 639
81 (79) Nicolas Almagro(Spain) 637
82 (81) Denis Istomin(Uzbekistan) 634
83 (82) Andreas Seppi(Italy) 626
84 (67) Frances Tiafoe(U.S.) 619
85 (83) Ernesto Escobedo(U.S.) 618
86 (90) Marius Copil(Romania) 618
87 (84) Blaz Kavcic(Slovenia) 617
88 (86) Norbert Gombos(Slovakia) 612
89 (88) Alessandro Giannessi(Italy) 610
90 (85) Julien Benneteau(France) 609
91 (91) Thomas Fabbiano(Italy) 597
92 (100) Guido Pella(Argentina) 594
93 (96) Henri Laaksonen(Switzerland) 574
94 (93) Bernard Tomic(Australia) 570
95 (95) Taro Daniel(Japan) 564
96 (97) Carlos Berlocq(Argentina) 561
97 (98) Ruben Bemelmans(Belgium) 561
98 (99) Mikhail Youzhny(Russia) 560
99 (101) Marcel Granollers(Spain) 553
100 (103) Marco Cecchinato(Italy) 539

 

[El Dude]

Alex Zverev is #4 in the Race rankings, and only 180 points behind #3, Dominic Thiem. Clearly Fedal will finish #1-2 for the year, but I think Zverev is the best bet to finish #3, especially with the injuries.

2017 seems like a bonafide breakthrough for the "NextGen King": four titles so far, inlcuding a Masters an ATP 500. Now he just needs to start going deeper in Slams. But as I said a few weeks ago, I could see him winning his first Slam sometime before his 22nd birthday, which is April 2019 - so he's got six chances.

 

[herios]

New career high Aug. 7, 20193.
93. Henri Laksonen 25y

The lone player posting this week in Swiss # 3.

 

[britbox]

Tomic dropping like a stone.