Swiss Indoors 2017, Basel, ATP 500

[El Dude]

Since when did Paire become a lumbersexual?

 

[El Dude]

Paire is so out-matched, but I feel like he is like almost every French player in that he could move up a tier with a shift in attitude. He doesn't have elite talent, but he could be (or have been) a fixture in the top 10-20 range.

What is with French tennis players?

 

[shawnbm]

Since when did Paire become a lumbersexual?

That made me laugh right out loud! Thanks for that, as it has been a less than ideal day here at work.

 

[Busted]

Paire is so out-matched, but I feel like he is like almost every French player in that he could move up a tier with a shift in attitude. He doesn't have elite talent, but he could be (or have been) a fixture in the top 10-20 range.

What is with French tennis players?

I think what you're trying to say is that none of them have any edge. They're all kind of lackadaisical. It's like they just wandered onto the tennis court , thought it was an easy way to make living and\or better than a 9-5 job - and they'd get to travel the world too boot. There's no drive or ambition to be the best of the best. They just want to be good enough to earn a living, save some money and have a laugh while doing it all.. You know...kinda like Nick Kyrgios and Bernie Tomic.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Fed won easily. If Shapo wins his match, which is going on as I speak, he will face Fed. That will be an interesting match.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Shapo did not earn his private lesson from TMF. He lost to Mannarino after winning the first set.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Mannarino is a great guy at making you beat yourself. I really dislike players like that but I have to hand him that it is a special talent and he has high tennis IQ.

 

[ftan]

ARe the matches on Tennis Channel. I git time to see ESPN everywhere app on Roku today after forever and it has no matches. What's going on, does anyone know

 

[GameSetAndMath]

After a couple of long three set matches, as expected Delpo and Cilic make it to SF. The other matches have not even begun as these folks were playing too long. Hope they can finish all matches today itself.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Our stats guys, El Dude, GSM...I have a question: Is there a stat for hawk eye challenges? I am curious as to which challenge is more successful, when you challenge your own ball, as in , linesman calls it out but you think it is in, OR, when you challenge your opponents shot, claiming it was out?

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Our stats guys, El Dude, GSM...I have a question: Is there a stat for hawk eye challenges? I am curious as to which challenge is more successful, when you challenge your own ball, as in , linesman calls it out but you think it is in, OR, when you challenge your opponents shot, claiming it was out?

Not sure that they maintain that kind of data (although they could if they want to).

But, I think it should be easier to find the success rates of different players using the Hawk-Eye. Fed typically performs bad on this.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Actually, recently I heard an interesting idea mentioned by a commentator (forgot who it was) about Hawk-Eye. Hawk-Eye has a margin of error. Currently, we use the Hawk-Eye system assuming that it is always correct.

A better way of using Hawk-Eye is as follows: A call is made on the court. A player challenges it. They should use the Hawk-Eye. If Hawk-Eye can answer with absolute certainty, then use the result of Hawk-Eye; if not (i.e., if the ball could be either in or out both being possibilities based on the margin of error), simply retain the original call made on the court (sort of like what happens in NFL; if you want to change the ruling made on the field based on a video review, it should be demonstrable without a doubt that changing the decision is justified).

Finally, many people think that Hawk-Eye is actually using the video that it recorded. No, it does not. It actually calculates (based on the trajectory of the ball and based on available videos taken from different angle) the landing spot of the ball (when direct evidence is not
available).

 

[GameSetAndMath]

After losing first set, Fed feed a Bagel to Mannarino. Not watching it as I am at work.

Now, on to third set.

 

[El Dude]

Roger seems agitated.

 

[El Dude]

Breadstick not bagel, Game.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Not sure that they maintain that kind of data (although they could if they want to).

But, I think it should be easier to find the success rates of different players using the Hawk-Eye. Fed typically performs bad on this.

Fed definitely is not good at this. But I am looking at this from a psychological perspective and it would really tell me something if I knew the stats I am looking for.

 

[Front242]

One hell of a hold by Roger. That pick up to save the last break point was insanely good.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Fed nails a crucial break. Should be cake walk from here on.

 

[Front242]

Some power in that last backhand from Roger.

 

[Front242]

Nicely done. Class match point winner.