So we're supposed to believe all the countries not reporting stuff truthfully? Huge laugh at China's reported lies in that case I'm sure most here would agree. 4635 deaths ?! ROFL! Probably need to add on 3 zeroes to get the correct total there. Deaths in the US and UK (1610 deaths reported in the UK today - they NEVER had these numbers before the vaccines came along) have gone through the roof since the end of December and that ties in with the date the "vaccines" were introduced so I'd say that's some coincidence. Frail and old people who would not have died if not given this crap in the first place and deserved better than what untimely demise Pfizer brought them. There's also a reason pharma companies have been indemnified with their "vaccines", namely you can't sue us because we know damn well there will be issues. Shocking world we live in.
You put a lot of things in the blender there. Let's see if we can separate them:
1) Lack of transparency over reported COVID deaths: Yes, this is possible, but this is not every country in the world. Some have complained that COVID deaths are over-reported, too, so what do we do with that? However, is it not indisputable that, give or take, 2 million + deaths have occurred that are attributable to a worldwide COVID pandemic?
2) Death via vaccine: I can't speak to the UK knowledgeably, but I think they were seeing spikes before there was a vaccine. Certainly here in the US. To pretend it all got worse when the vaccine came along is risible and beyond misleading. It's lying, or lying to yourself. Show me one statistic that marks a spike in COVID deaths when the vaccine came along. Just US and/or UK is fine.
2A.) Norway on Covid vaccine deaths: You like to call Norway transparent, but they did say that they can only say that the vaccine "may" have contributed to the deaths of the very old and very frail. They are NOT confirming that, they are investigating it.
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https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/18...d-19-vaccination-deaths-says-health-authority
3.) The very old and very frail: I've made the argument that many of these people died of COVID before their time. I'm sure you're not one of those people, but there was plenty of argument around here that, hey, you're 97, you were going to die soon, anyway. I consider that a bogus argument, but same for COVID as for the vaccine. We're talking about a very vulnerable population, which is also, by-and-large more isolated than ever due to the pandemic. The question becomes if the cure is worse than the disease, for them. Overall, it does not seem yet that the cure is worse than the disease. To take one side, and not weigh the other seems foolish to me, and you seem to be only weighing one side. If you're worried about these people for the vaccine, I hope you've been, and are, worried about them for COVID.
4.) The hale and hearty, and the vaccine: If most people are not fragile and old, and those at risk (doctors, nurses, 65+) are also getting vaccinated, what is the concern, since the examples of bad reactions for them are rare? How are we expected to go back to some kind of normal if people don't get immunity to the virus? You gotta take a shot. (Which I mean in both senses of the word.)
5.) Inability to sue the manufacturers of the vaccine: Sure, this is tricky. But there are two options: bring out a vaccine as quickly as is feasible...(and there have been trials, massive ones,)...or wait 2 years, or whatever. Do you want to keep being in lockdown for 2 more years? Taking the vaccine is voluntary. So you take a risk. Moderna and Pfizer didn't create a vaccine to try to kill us. They're trying to help save us. But if they don't have some guarantee against being sued into insolvency, they wouldn't put it out there. Yes, there are older people who may be too demented to make the choice themselves, but most will have a family member or heathcare proxy who makes the choice for them. It's a calculated risk. Everyone must decide for themselves, or for their person who can't do so. And the calculations must be made based on science and evidence, not hysteria. TBH, I think you're being slightly hysterical about this.
6.) "Shocking world we live in": I agree with you on that, but for different reasons.