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He was up a break in the first set before squandering the lead. Then at the start of the 5th he pulled his punch with Nadal on his last legs. It was a terrible loss.
He was up a break for one game, against the best break-back player on the tour. Same as in the 5th. And the one playing well below par in that set and in that match was Nadal. How was Nadal on his last legs in that 5th? He'd played plenty of 5-setters in his career, compared to, at that point, how many was it for Medvedev? 4? 5? Let's face it: that was a "terrible loss" for you. And for the Federer fans. But even Medevev felt like he acquitted himself well. He did as well as he could have.
 

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I rewatched that match the other day. In actual fact, Medvedev did have a lead with a break at 2-1 in the first, but got broken back immediately. And he led at 1-0 in the 5th. I think that was it. Nadal was tight that whole match and let it go 5, which was valiant on Meddie. But you are right it should have been a straight sets win. Cali likes to spin a lot out of the odd moments to say that Medvedev "should" have won. But any "should have" in that match was that Rafa "should" have closed it in 3.


Why should Medvedev not have won the first set? The way he lost the lead after going up 2-1 and the way his serve was broken after 5-5 was completely cheap and lazy on his part. If he played half as well at the end of the first set that he did in the 3rd and 4th sets, he would have run away with the set.

Medvedev absolutely should have won the first set.
 
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US Open Results for Round 4 Day 8 - Monday, September 7, 2020

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Medvedev also missed a break point in the final of Canada, oh no he should have won that match too! Nadal was so lucky to win 6-3, 6-0 he should have lost according to the genius logic of Cali. If all of Medvedev shots landed inside the court he would have won, Nadal is a very lucky guy!
 

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Tiafoe will be lucky to win more than 2 games in either sets 2 or 3. He is about to get obliterated. Medvedev is in a flow and his movement is far superior to Tiafoe’s.


Great call, Cali. Someone like Moxie who just looks at the scoreboard and is absolutely clueless about the flow of the match (as she clearly was about the 2019 US Open final) would never be able to make a call like that. All she sees is the score. She has no understanding of the competitive psychology at work, which is why she wonders why Djokovic gets frustrated even when he has a lead.
 

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Great call, Cali. Someone like Moxie who just looks at the scoreboard and is absolutely clueless about the flow of the match (as she clearly was about the 2019 US Open final) would never be able to make a call like that. All she sees is the score. She has no understanding of the competitive psychology at work, which is why she wonders why Djokovic gets frustrated even when he has a lead.
 

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Why should Medvedev not have won the first set? The way he lost the lead after going up 2-1 and the way his serve was broken after 5-5 was completely cheap and lazy on his part. If he played half as well at the end of the first set that he did in the 3rd and 4th sets, he would have run away with the set.

Medvedev absolutely should have won the first set.
why you talking about a match which was a year ago have you got mentally head problems you should crazy, you don,t see anyone talking about matches djokovic should have lost like A0 2012, us open 2010,11 wimbledon 19. the big 3 have all won close matches there had to saved break pionts it does not mean anything because they won end of story, are you always stuck the past? also you say medvedev was a break 2-1 first set right you know the starts of sets not matter fool its the end of sets that count so your point is really dumb just like your IQ. you need to go back to school with your these really bad posts you just wish win medvedev won thats why you always bring the match up nadal won the us open for the 4th time end of story get over it.
 
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Why should Medvedev not have won the first set? The way he lost the lead after going up 2-1 and the way his serve was broken after 5-5 was completely cheap and lazy on his part. If he played half as well at the end of the first set that he did in the 3rd and 4th sets, he would have run away with the set.

Medvedev absolutely should have won the first set.
tennis that ifs are dumb just like you, we wont live in a world there medvedev won the first set, he will lose the 1st set NO matter how many times you watch it clown, and was only up 1 game 2-1 thats noting in tennis then he got to 5-5 nadal played god level tennis to win as well the 5th set. of course djokovic for sure should have lost the wimbledon title last year he was getting owned by federer.
 

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why that is this Novak djokovic fans going crazy saying they will kill this poor old woman who djokovic hurt.

As seen by how they have defended him with tons of excuses, it's obvious that many Djokovic fans find nothing wrong with violence just like their hero. This is so sad.
 
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As usual imjimmy, you talk about Nadal as if he has some kind of ethereal peak form that no one can touch, and any time he struggles you insist that he played terribly or was totally off his game. You are actually quite similar to DarthFed when he describes Federer’s performances as “horrible” or “pathetic” simply because he is in a close match.

Medvedev had an early break in the first set and only lost the set 7-5. Don’t talk like Nadal beat him 6-1. That is ridiculous. Medvedev was up a break and if he played half as well at the end of the first set that he did in sets 3 or 4 he would have walked away with the set.

Your bullshit narrative conveniently omits that Medvedev blew multiple break points at the start of the 5th set. Also, for you to say that Nadal played “some of the worst tennis” he has played in a Slam final is utter nonsense. He simply couldn’t hit through Medvedev and once Medvedev started turning his defense to offense Nadal became quite helpless.

I hate to break it to you, but Nadal has never been as good as you’ve made him out to be.

He is a great player in his own right, but not the tennis perfection you think of him as.
All Jimmy said was that Nadal was sub-par, which everyone except you said he was, and that he should have won in 3, which was also very likely. He's not making shit up, like you are, or eliding things. He's not the one with the "bullshit narrative." He didn't actually break it out into a narrative. But you are.

Let's look at it:

Set one: You keep trying to make much of DM's lead in the first set, but it came at 2-1 and was lost at 2-2. That was his last lead in the set, and no, he didn't play crap in that set.

Set five: You say he blew multiple break point chances. He had 2 in the 2nd game, but Rafa saved them. (A game that you like to call Medvedev's "collapse" in that set.) Nadal saved that game, and Medvedev had one more BP chance in that set. So you can say he had "multiple" BP chances in that set, but it doesn't really tell the story. Your version of the story, in fact, doesn't line up with most accounts.

Why should Medvedev not have won the first set? The way he lost the lead after going up 2-1 and the way his serve was broken after 5-5 was completely cheap and lazy on his part. If he played half as well at the end of the first set that he did in the 3rd and 4th sets, he would have run away with the set.

Medvedev absolutely should have won the first set.
Medvedev got one early break. Then he lost it in the next game. Then he got broken again. Then he lost the set to the then-18 x GS champion. "Cheap and lazy?" I don't remember him playing like that, and I just re-watched the match. As to your bolded above, that's classic Cali re-imagining the world. If anyone played a better set than the one they lost, they'd have won it. If wishes were horses, dude. It chaps your a** that Nadal won that set and that match, and it is not within your DNA to admit that Rafa played some shaky tennis to keep Medevev in that match. Doesn't make it true, though.

@Admins: Sorry to get into this with Cali, but it IS about Medvedev and last year's final. :)
 
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