SHANGHAI ROLEX MASTERS - ATP-1000 - OCT. 6 to 13, 2013.

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DarthFed said:
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NADAL2005RG said:
I must admit, Federer has caused Nadal some problems over the years.

Yeah, who'd a thunk it. I mean, Federer? Who's he when he's at home? :huh:

Don't take the bait. You of all people know that Federer has caused Rafa no problems the last 5 years. Don't allow the puppet to start pulling other people's strings.

I know, but it's funny, isn't it? As if, even Federer!

By the way, he's caused him trouble at the WTF! And beat Rafa at IW last year...
 

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JesuslookslikeBorg. said:
grigor dimitrov was unlucky getting a recently top12 guy like kia-ora nikishori,

but even so.. losing in straights is not going to make the partridges of cornwall flock around the nearest telly and cheer for him.. :huh:

I don't think he can complain about drawing Kei. It could be a lot worse. Just another disappointing loss in another disappointing season for Grigor. Too bad, he has such a nice game to watch :cry
 

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Kieran said:
DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
NADAL2005RG said:
I must admit, Federer has caused Nadal some problems over the years.

Yeah, who'd a thunk it. I mean, Federer? Who's he when he's at home? :huh:

Don't take the bait. You of all people know that Federer has caused Rafa no problems the last 5 years. Don't allow the puppet to start pulling other people's strings.

I know, but it's funny, isn't it? As if, even Federer!

By the way, he's caused him trouble at the WTF! And beat Rafa at IW last year...

IW doesn't matter but YEC does though it isn't a slam. But at slams Rafa is probably grateful anytime he is facing Roger in semis or final the last 5 years.
 

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DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
NADAL2005RG said:
I must admit, Federer has caused Nadal some problems over the years.

Yeah, who'd a thunk it. I mean, Federer? Who's he when he's at home? :huh:

Don't take the bait. You of all people know that Federer has caused Rafa no problems the last 5 years. Don't allow the puppet to start pulling other people's strings.

I know, but it's funny, isn't it? As if, even Federer!

By the way, he's caused him trouble at the WTF! And beat Rafa at IW last year...

IW doesn't matter but YEC does though it isn't a slam. But at slams Rafa is probably grateful anytime he is facing Roger in semis or final the last 5 years.

[Ahem] 6 years... :wave
 
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Kieran said:
DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
NADAL2005RG said:
I must admit, Federer has caused Nadal some problems over the years.

Yeah, who'd a thunk it. I mean, Federer? Who's he when he's at home? :huh:

Don't take the bait. You of all people know that Federer has caused Rafa no problems the last 5 years. Don't allow the puppet to start pulling other people's strings.

I know, but it's funny, isn't it? As if, even Federer!

By the way, he's caused him trouble at the WTF! And beat Rafa at IW last year...

Exactly, that's my point. Federer has always been a difficult matchup for Nadal, even when Federer was 30+years-old. So no surprise baby-Federer is causing Nadal problems too.
 

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NADAL2005RG said:
Kieran said:
DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
NADAL2005RG said:
I must admit, Federer has caused Nadal some problems over the years.

Yeah, who'd a thunk it. I mean, Federer? Who's he when he's at home? :huh:

Don't take the bait. You of all people know that Federer has caused Rafa no problems the last 5 years. Don't allow the puppet to start pulling other people's strings.

I know, but it's funny, isn't it? As if, even Federer!

By the way, he's caused him trouble at the WTF! And beat Rafa at IW last year...

Exactly, that's my point. Federer has always been a difficult matchup for Nadal, even when Federer was 30+years-old. So no surprise baby-Federer is causing Nadal problems too.

Federer has always been a difficult matchup for Nadal

I think you meant the exact opposite, Rafa vs Roger H2H 22-10 or something like that
 

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Kieran said:
DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
DarthFed said:
Kieran said:
Yeah, who'd a thunk it. I mean, Federer? Who's he when he's at home? :huh:

Don't take the bait. You of all people know that Federer has caused Rafa no problems the last 5 years. Don't allow the puppet to start pulling other people's strings.

I know, but it's funny, isn't it? As if, even Federer!

By the way, he's caused him trouble at the WTF! And beat Rafa at IW last year...

IW doesn't matter but YEC does though it isn't a slam. But at slams Rafa is probably grateful anytime he is facing Roger in semis or final the last 5 years.

[Ahem] 6 years... :wave

2008-2013 is five years on its own but 6 seasons is your point...so be it.
 

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Tough to say anyone is a tough matchup when they are 10-21 against that player, including 4-13 since start of 2008 and 0-5 at slams with at most 2 being tough matches. I mean it is just common sense.
 
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Of the top 20, Federer has the 2nd best head2head vs Nadal.
At age 30, Federer beat Nadal 6-3 6-0.
At age 31, Federer beat Nadal 6-3 6-4.

Nadal 22-16 Djokovic
Nadal 13-5 Murray
Nadal 20-4 Ferrer
Nadal 8-3 Del Potro
Nadal 16-3 Berdych
Nadal 21-10 Federer
Nadal 10-0 Wawrinka
Nadal 8-3 Tsonga
Nadal 11-0 Gasquet
Nadal 4-0 Raonic
Nadal 5-0 Haas
Nadal 4-0 Isner
Nadal 5-1 Simon
Nadal 1-0 Janowicz
Nadal 10-0 Almagro
Nadal 3-0 Fognini
Nadal 5-0 Nishikori
Nadal 7-0 Robredo
Nadal 1-0 Anderson
 

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lets get this party started. the top guns will be in action on Wednesday.
 

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Pospisil d. Gasquet today 3,4 and Paire d. Simon 4,3...both messing up my draw challenge. :mad: Melzer, Robredo Seppi, Kohlscreiber and Fognini also through to the next round.

Some matches up tomorrow:

Del Potro v. Kohlscreiber
Djokovic v. Granollers
Federer v. Seppi
Nadal v. Dogopolov
Ferrer v. Rosol.......those are the top guys.

A few others of interest:

Wawrinka v. Anderson (big hitters)
Verdasco v. Raonic (IF Verdasco is on)
Brands v. Haas (battle of the Germans)

I think Delpo has the toughest 2nd round of all the top guys, and Rosol could be a handful for Ferrer.
 

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Things are opening up for Roger. With both Lletyon and Gasquet out, he should at least
make it to QF. Let us see, how it goes.
 

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top guns should have no trouble:

I expect easy wins for roger, nole, and nadal.
 

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I agree that DelPo has the toughest customer to take care of in Kohli.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
I agree that DelPo has the toughest customer to take care of in Kohli.

I doubt Juan Martin would lose, but it could either be a long 3 or 4.
 

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Moxie629 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
I agree that DelPo has the toughest customer to take care of in Kohli.

I doubt Juan Martin would lose, but it could either be a long 3 or 4.

What do you mean? These are all best of 3 set matches.
How can it go to 4 sets? You should get treatment from Spanish
mental health doctors, who are incredible.:D
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
Moxie629 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
I agree that DelPo has the toughest customer to take care of in Kohli.

I doubt Juan Martin would lose, but it could either be a long 3 or 4.

What do you mean? These are all best of 3 set matches.
How can it go to 4 sets? You should get treatment from Spanish
mental health doctors, who are incredible.:D

Oh, yes...oops! Perhaps I need a session in an oxygen egg. I'm sure I meant a long 2 or difficult 3. Multi-tasking is a beach. (Except without the umbrellas, sun, or fun.):cover
 

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Ok, it may not go to a 4th, but Del Potro and Kohly are all tied at 5-5 in the 3rd, so I was right about that. :cool:

EDIT: And the Argentine pulls it off in the tie-breaker.
 

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Delpotro was sick ? He called the doctor several times. Any news ? Hope he won't W/O