Roland Garros / French Open 2023 [Men] - Grand Slam

[MargaretMcAleer]

Don Fabio,

Well Ruud has limited weapons, what other players at RG this year, had the chance to qualify for the final,? good chances gone astray

 

[don_fabio]

Don Fabio,

Well Ruud has limited weapons, what other players at RG this year, had the chance to qualify for the final,? good chances gone astray

He used his chances well in bottom draw no doubt, he is a solid player just not elite.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

He used his chances well in bottom draw no doubt, he is a solid player just not elite.

Agree from the bottom of the draw, which was wide open after the clay specialist Meddy went lol!, I have said all along he is a solid player, who does make the most of his limited weapons, I mean he has made back to back RG finals

 

[PhiEaglesfan712]

If Ruud continues to put himself in position to get to these slam finals, who knows, maybe one of those matches will go his way.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

If Ruud continues to put himself in position to get to these slam finals, who knows, maybe one of those matches will go his way.

Hmm I feel that is a big ask, he did make the final of the USO last year and pushed Carlos, though in the end Carlos has too many weapons.

 

[El Dude]

Re: Ruud winning a Slam, who knows. The field is always changing. Worse players than Ruud have won Slams, though better players have also gone Slamless. It really comes down to opportunity. But unlike players like Alcaraz and Rune, he's going to need help from the Tennis Gods. Alcaraz and Rune - as elite talents - will find a way, regardless of the context. In a way, that's the difference between the elite and "second tier"...the former will win big tournaments, regardless of the field; the latter need opportunities.

In other words, Ruud's a player who I could see sneaking in a Slam at some point over the next 5+ years, but just as easily a player who never makes another final. He really is a true "second tier" guy - in some ways like a lesser version of David Ferrer, imo.

 

[Fiero425]

If Ruud continues to put himself in position to get to these slam finals, who knows, maybe one of those matches will go his way.

I was quite nervous about assuming Novak would win this French Open! I didn't update his blog until MP after defeating Ruud! Lightning could have struck or Nole could have had one of those devastating injuries like Sascha being carted off in a wheelchair! IMO the defacto final was in the SF where Carlos ended up breaking down after 2 tough sets! I thought it appropriate Djokovic get an easy final and the script was implimented and sucessful on all counts! It was great!

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Re: Ruud winning a Slam, who knows. The field is always changing. Worse players than Ruud have won Slams, though better players have also gone Slamless. It really comes down to opportunity. But unlike players like Alcaraz and Rune, he's going to need help from the Tennis Gods. Alcaraz and Rune - as elite talents - will find a way, regardless of the context. In a way, that's the difference between the elite and "second tier"...the former will win big tournaments, regardless of the field; the latter need opportunities.

In other words, Ruud's a player who I could see sneaking in a Slam at some point over the next 5+ years, but just as easily a player who never makes another final. He really is a true "second tier" guy - in some ways like a lesser version of David Ferrer, imo.

I agree with your thoughts regarding Ruud, I have often thought in ways he reminded me of David Ferrer, a lesser version,

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

Here is what we can say about Ruud. He is making it to slam finals. Players with bigger weapons than him aren’t. If he wants a slam, he is going to have to work on his deficiencies. He can certainly work on his serve which is already pretty decent. Backhand has to get better. His slice is a joke and needs improved significantly. He can certainly improve or add more net play. He has relatively good instincts up there.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Here is what we can say about Ruud. He is making it to slam finals. Players with bigger weapons than him aren’t. If he wants a slam, he is going to have to work on his deficiencies. He can certainly work on his serve which is already pretty decent. Backhand has to get better. His slice is a joke and needs improved significantly. He can certainly improve or add more net play. He has relatively good instincts up there.

I think we agree, he has to work on his bhand, though his bh slice really let him down in the final against Novak, which he does have to work on.

 

[the AntiPusher]

He does have a good heavy fhand, he can defend well at times, a reasonable serve though he does need to improve his bhand and bh slice,

@MargaretMcAleer Miss Margaret yes he does have a heavy FH as but it's isn't at the level of Rafa's or Novak's FH. Rudd drops the ball too short often in the big matches against higher ranked players. I give him credit, Rudd was able to crank a few good serves against Rune and Sasha but it's nothing to really be feared. E.g. FAA has real weapons and he doesn't have to be the grinder that Rudd is.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

@MargaretMcAleer Miss Margaret yes he does have a heavy FH as but it's isn't at the level of Rafa's or Novak's FH. Rudd drops the ball too short often in the big matches against higher ranked players. I give him credit, Rudd was able to crank a few good serves against Rune and Sasha but it's nothing to really be feared. E.g. FAA has real weapons and he doesn't have to be the grinder that Rudd is.

Oh Hello. I went and had a 5 KM run, had breakfast about to get into a shower, as I have a manicure appointment finally you answered moi
I never said he has the heavy fhand of Rafa or Novak, I was just stating what his weapons are, he does have area's of his game like his bh and also bh slice which let him down in the final agaist Novak, though he has made back to back RG finals with the weapons he has, other players had the chance at the bottom half of the draw, when Meddy went out to make the final, he took his chances and defeated Rune, Sasha, who gave him no pressure at all, to make the final.Ruud is your typical clay court grinder, which has won him many matches. also he made the final of the USO last year against Alcaraz
Go and read El Dude's thoughts on Ruud, which I agree, as I have often thought he reminded me of David Ferrer in ways
El Dud'es post is on this post btw

 

[roberto]

I think both Rune and Charley get a pass, they’re both young, we can’t expect them all to be like Rafa or Pete aged 19, and Charley already is the most dangerous 20 year old we know of, but they’re both still growing. Rune going to 5 against Musetti is something he’ll grow out of. Alcaraz is exceptional and hit the wall, but we know he’ll be back. Djoker used to hit that same wall at an even older age. Instead of trying, he’d fake injuries (as he still does) to avoid the pressure.

I know you don’t like Rune but I think the game needs him, and I hope he learns how to play these best of five matches..I

Oh Hello. I went and had a 5 KM run, had breakfast about to get into a shower, as I have a manicure appointment finally you answered moi
I never said he has the heavy fhand of Rafa or Novak, I was just stating what his weapons are, he does have area's of his game like his bh and also bh slice which let him down in the final agaist Novak, though he has made back to back RG finals with the weapons he has, other players had the chance at the bottom half of the draw, when Meddy went out to make the final, he took his chances and defeated Rune, Sasha, who gave him no pressure at all, to make the final.Ruud is your typical clay court grinder, which has won him many matches. also he made the final of the USO last year against Alcaraz
Go and read El Dude's thoughts on Ruud, which I agree, as I have often thought he reminded me of David Ferrer in ways
El Dud'es post is on this post btw

I agree with this and the consensus that Rude is a work in progress (hopefully). Does anyone know his coaching situation? Sounds like he could use some new blood.....

 

[Moxie]

Re: Ruud winning a Slam, who knows. The field is always changing. Worse players than Ruud have won Slams, though better players have also gone Slamless. It really comes down to opportunity. But unlike players like Alcaraz and Rune, he's going to need help from the Tennis Gods. Alcaraz and Rune - as elite talents - will find a way, regardless of the context. In a way, that's the difference between the elite and "second tier"...the former will win big tournaments, regardless of the field; the latter need opportunities.

In other words, Ruud's a player who I could see sneaking in a Slam at some point over the next 5+ years, but just as easily a player who never makes another final. He really is a true "second tier" guy - in some ways like a lesser version of David Ferrer, imo.

The last player to "sneak" out a slam might be Gaston Gaudio. I'm not sure that's going to happen much anymore, with players with such big weapons. You could almost say Cilic snuck one out at the USO 2014, but big weapons were involved. He's tall, and his serve was on fire. If Ruud wants to win a Slam, he's got a LOT of work to do. I don't know if he's a lesser version of David Ferrer, or a similar one, but, in the big moments, just being sturdy doesn't get it done, no matter how much I admire the ethic and the tennis.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I agree with this and the consensus that Rude is a work in progress (hopefully). Does anyone know his coaching situation? Sounds like he could use some new blood.....

Patrick Mouratoglou and Rune had a 3 month coaching contract, though it was extended for 6 months., to finish around the Madrid tournmannt, Patrick M was seen in Rome and was seen in Rune's box at RG this year ( Patrick M was also helping coach Coco Gauff at RG this, as Coco didnt't have a full time coach).
Lars Christensen remains as Rune's main coach, a position he has held since Rune was six years old, Rune's mother is his manager,
Rune will continue to train at the Patrick Mouratoglou Academy.

 

[BratSrbin]

 

[roberto]

Patrick Mouratoglou and Rune had a 3 month coaching contract, though it was extended for 6 months., to finish around the Madrid tournmannt, Patrick M was seen in Rome and was seen in Rune's box at RG this year ( Patrick M was also helping coach Coco Gauff at RG this, as Coco didnt't have a full time coach).
Lars Christensen remains as Rune's main coach, a position he has held since Rune was six years old, Rune's mother is his manager,
Rune will continue to train at the Patrick Mouratoglou Academy.

Thanks---I was actually curious about Rude's coaching situation

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Thanks---I was actually curious about Rude's coaching situation

No worries

 

[Kieran]

Patrick Mouratoglou and Rune had a 3 month coaching contract, though it was extended for 6 months., to finish around the Madrid tournmannt, Patrick M was seen in Rome and was seen in Rune's box at RG this year ( Patrick M was also helping coach Coco Gauff at RG this, as Coco didnt't have a full time coach).
Lars Christensen remains as Rune's main coach, a position he has held since Rune was six years old, Rune's mother is his manager,
Rune will continue to train at the Patrick Mouratoglou Academy.

I think Patrick Mouth-hole will hold Rune back…

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I think Patrick Mouth-hole will hold Rune back…

He has known Rune since he was 13 years of age, though both seem to have a good relationship, Rune's main coach is still Lars Christensen, Rune will still train at Patrick's academy., I feel Patrick will just take an advisory role, when Rune trains at his academy, quite frankly I thought Patrick would take over as Rune's main coach., presently that is not the case. Patrick has always been 'mouthy' though he has had good results with other players he as coached ( Serena )