Mutua Madrid Open, Madrid, Spain, 2023 - Masters 1000

[MargaretMcAleer]

a massive cake MM. Just who are they trying to feed w/ that thing, the entire stadium court?

I think so lol!

 

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a massive cake MM. Just who are they trying to feed w/ that thing, the entire stadium court?

 

[Kieran]

I couldn't agree more and all of that aside, it's not helping the Greek. It didn't help him when it was illegal and they had an Aussie sting operation and it's not helping him now that it's allowed. Why his dense family can't understand this and get the boy the appropriate help he needs, is above my paygrade to diagnose.

And yet I suspect your diagnosis would be correct. They’re too egotistical and invested in their own interests in his career to let him go - and he’s too weak to kick them all out..

 

[AnonymousFan]

Third set just started for Karatsev and Struff

 

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Third set just started for Karatsev and Struff

It looks like Struff is going to win this. Karatsev has an injured leg.

 

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Wow, a nearly 13 minute game, with Karatsev saving 4 MPS — and it’s not over.

EDIT: He held, after about 15 minutes. Crazy Struff stuff.

 

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That’s it. The first ever LL to make it to the championship match in Madrid.

 

[kskate2]

That’s it. The first ever LL to make it to the championship match in Madrid.

Charlie will definitely have his hands full on Sun. I hope Struff isn't gassed and can actually make it interesting.

 

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[Ellentonboy]

I get the impression he's trying to attain a Foki-style pony.

Okay that is fine, but I think he is attractive enough that he doesn't need a "pony tale", but what do I know? I mean. people decide what is best for them. We are just tennis fans, so who are we to say how someone should wear their hair? I know I wouldn't't appreciate it if someone publicly ridiculed or challenged my appearance. Enough on that subject.....

 

[Jelenafan]

And yet I suspect your diagnosis would be correct. They’re too egotistical and invested in their own interests in his career to let him go - and he’s too weak to kick them all out..

It’s all about control. Unfortunately he’s talented enough that his success confirms to them its all due to THEIR expertise.

I daresay if the family had the choice of letting him go knowing the end result was Tsitsipas having better results, their response would be “hell no”.

 

[Jelenafan]

If we're fair to Karatsev, he's been as high as 14. We know he's a dangerous player. And to say that Alcaraz has "been in the Top 10" does undersell him a bit. He's been #1, he is currently #2, and he is the defending champion, so there is that, right?

Look at the draw. You could say, I think, that the top half was loaded. Alcaraz has already gone through Dimitrov, Zverev and Khachanov. And Alcaraz still has to play Coric, who we know is a very talented player. But for injuries, I think we all believe he'd have done better, and may yet feature well. In the bottom half, who went out early? In no particular order: FAA, Rune, Ruud, Medvedev, Fritz, Tsitsipas, Tiafoe, oh, and the supposedly dangerous Cerundolo. Did I miss anyone? Out of all that, what you have left is Karatsev and Struff. Who you going to blame for that? I'd blame basically everyone just named above, if you think this underrates this Madrid Open. Or, maybe we just got two dark horses for the French Open.

Rune & Ruud were in the top half, but i tell ya tennis fans are never happy.

If the seeding holds it’s because the rest of the players are mentally weak and pushovers , if the seeding collapses its because the seeded players are mentally weak. Some of the upsets were darn good matches.

Personally i love this “college football” uncertainty.

 

[El Dude]

If we're fair to Karatsev, he's been as high as 14. We know he's a dangerous player. And to say that Alcaraz has "been in the Top 10" does undersell him a bit. He's been #1, he is currently #2, and he is the defending champion, so there is that, right?

Look at the draw. You could say, I think, that the top half was loaded. Alcaraz has already gone through Dimitrov, Zverev and Khachanov. And Alcaraz still has to play Coric, who we know is a very talented player. But for injuries, I think we all believe he'd have done better, and may yet feature well. In the bottom half, who went out early? In no particular order: FAA, Rune, Ruud, Medvedev, Fritz, Tsitsipas, Tiafoe, oh, and the supposedly dangerous Cerundolo. Did I miss anyone? Out of all that, what you have left is Karatsev and Struff. Who you going to blame for that? I'd blame basically everyone just named above, if you think this underrates this Madrid Open. Or, maybe we just got two dark horses for the French Open.

LOL, Moxie. I'm not selling or under-selling Alcaraz, nor am I saying anything about the tournament as a whole. I'm merely pointing out that none of the other players have reached the top 10. That's what that sentence means.

Nor am I saying that Alcaraz has had an easy tournament, or that Karatsev isn't dangerous. I'm merely pointing out facts: That Alcaraz is (was) the only SF who has reached the top 10, and that the other three are all relatively low ranked for Masters SF. Ergo, a rather weak quartet, in terms of current and past rankings.

(In other words, it isn't an attack on Madrid, Alcaraz, Spain, clay, or Rafa ;-)

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Congratulations to Rublev and Khachanov who are the Doubles champions also best friends, defeating the 7th seeds Bopanna/Eden 63 36 10-3

 

[Moxie]

LOL, Moxie. I'm not selling or under-selling Alcaraz, nor am I saying anything about the tournament as a whole. I'm merely pointing out that none of the other players have reached the top 10. That's what that sentence means.

Nor am I saying that Alcaraz has had an easy tournament, or that Karatsev isn't dangerous. I'm merely pointing out facts: That Alcaraz is (was) the only SF who has reached the top 10, and that the other three are all relatively low ranked for Masters SF. Ergo, a rather weak quartet, in terms of current and past rankings.

(In other words, it isn't an attack on Madrid, Alcaraz, Spain, clay, or Rafa ;-)

I guess I should have known you would string that comment out into the next galaxy.

 

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[MargaretMcAleer]

I hope this will be an competitive final getting out of bed at 2.30am to watch, how long it is before the tour returns to Aussie lol!

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Okay Struff just broke Alcaraz to love, really destroying his serve

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

The Silver Fox again in the magic box, he really needs to stay out of the sun, he will be wrinkled in no time lol!

 

[kskate2]

The Silver Fox again in the magic box, he really needs to stay out of the sun, he will be wrinkled in no time lol!

And a mini-struggle to hold the next game going to deuce