China Open 2019, Beijing, China, ATP 500

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thiem going good for atp finals, him and nadal can easy beat Federer, Djokovic.

Haha. You crack me up man. Never stop posting rubbish please. Djokovic and Federer are hands down the best indoor hard court players and while that doesn't mean players can't beat them, Nadal has beaten Federer at the WTF just once in 2013 during Federer's worst year on tour when he was losing to everyone with a bad back. The stats are very much against that happening. Nadal hasn't beaten Federer off clay since 2014. It would probably take an injury eg recurrent back issue for Federer or shoulder for Djokovic for Nadal to beat either of them.

Stick that in your goat pipe and smoke it.
 
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Haha. You crack me up man. Never stop posting rubbish please. Djokovic and Federer are hands down the best indoor hard court players and while that doesn't mean players can't beat them, Nadal has beaten Federer at the WTF just once in 2013 during Federer's worst year on tour when he was losing to everyone with a bad back. The stats are very much against that happening. Nadal hasn't beaten Federer off clay since 2014. It would probably take an injury eg recurrent back issue for Federer or shoulder for Djokovic for Nadal to beat either of them.

Stick that in your goat pipe and smoke it.
well was talking about thiem as well who beat Federer on both hard, clay courts this year, I agree Djokovic be favourite against nadal + thiem of course beat him as well. second Federer has beaten nadal on clay since 09, which is much longer than[ 2014 Australia open] Cleary federer struggling more on nadal favourite surface than that nadal is on Federer on hard courts. finally both nadal+thiem have both out played Federer this year nadal leading Federer 4 sets to 3, thiem owning Federer on two different surfaces.
 

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Zverev is reminding us when he is switched on that he can be a really good player. Dismantled Felix, served only 2 double faults and won 93 percent of points after 1st serve.
 

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well was talking about thiem as well who beat Federer on both hard, clay courts this year, I agree Djokovic be favourite against nadal + thiem of course beat him as well. second Federer has beaten nadal on clay since 09, which is much longer than[ 2014 Australia open] Cleary federer struggling more on nadal favourite surface than that nadal is on Federer on hard courts. finally both nadal+thiem have both out played Federer this year nadal leading Federer 4 sets to 3, thiem owning Federer on two different surfaces.

Lol at sets won. Who cares about sets won? It's the actual result of the match that counts as in win or lose. Yes Nadal beat Federer at RG and Federer beat him at Wimbledon. No ones cares about sets won but the wind was the main reason at RG for the straight sets win not that it even matters to anyone but you.

Federer has barely played on clay the last few years besides this year's RG but if struggling is defined as a 37 year old making the semis the first time he's played since 2015 and losing to the overall champion and then yeah I guess he's struggling.:wacko:
 

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Zverev is reminding us when he is switched on that he can be a really good player. Dismantled Felix, served only 2 double faults and won 93 percent of points after 1st serve.

Those days are few and far between but I agree. He was giving Nadal hell at the AO 2017 till his lack of stamina showed and he routinely lost sets 4 and 5 after being up 2 sets to 1.
 

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Lol at sets won. Who cares about sets won? It's the actual result of the match that counts as in win or lose. Yes Nadal beat Federer at RG and Federer beat him at Wimbledon. No ones cares about sets won but the wind was the main reason at RG for the straight sets win not that it even matters to anyone but you.

Federer has barely played on clay the last few years besides this year's RG but if struggling is defined as a 37 year old making the semis the first time he's played since 2015 and losing to the overall champion and then yeah I guess he's struggling.:wacko:
nadal been better player than Federer in 2010s on both hard+clay courts, winning[ 4] hard court majors, [8] clay court majors I could go on but its not a Federer-nadal war topic like that your trying to turn it into, anyway thiem already basically owning Federer this season and also takeing care of Djokovic on clay. thiem can win wtf for sure+ so can Medvedev
 

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nadal been better player than Federer in 2010s on both hard+clay courts, winning[ 4] hard court majors, [8] clay court majors I could go on but its not a Federer-nadal war topic like that your trying to turn it into, anyway thiem already basically owning Federer this season and also takeing care of Djokovic on clay. thiem can win wtf for sure+ so can Medvedev

Here's clear proof you have issues. It was actually you yet again who turned it into Federer v Nadal debate with your stupid comment that Nadal and Thiem could easily beat Federer and Djokovic at the WTF and not me at all. I merely told you your post was based on nothing more than stupid wishful thinking.
 
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My Gosh! Ever since the U.S. Open, Federer and Djokovic fans have been so annoying and unbearable! :banghead: :wacko: No amount of complaining or excuses will change the fact that when all is said and done Nadal will go down as the undisputed goat! Get over it! :facepalm:
 
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My Gosh! Ever since the U.S. Open, Federer and Djokovic fans have been so annoying and unbearable! :banghead: :wacko: No amount of complaining or excuses will change the fact that when all is said and done Nadal will go down as the undisputed goat! Get over it! :facepalm:

Seek help DUDE! WTF are you talking about? Neither played much that I can remember w/ Fed in "LC," now Nole in Japan! WHAT? :cuckoo: :eek:
 

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My Gosh! Ever since the U.S. Open, Federer and Djokovic fans have been so annoying and unbearable! :banghead: :wacko: No amount of complaining or excuses will change the fact that when all is said and done Nadal will go down as the undisputed goat! Get over it! :facepalm:

No surprise at all that you have also failed to see it was a Nadal fan who started (?) / continued to be annoying and unbearable by stupidly posting comments that Nadal and Thiem could easily beat Federer and Djokovic at the WTF based on absolutely nothing. Take off your stupid Nadal fan blinding glasses and realize it's your fan base and not the Federer fans posting most of the shite and definitely starting the silliness.

The only thing he'll go down as is the GAPCOAT - Greatest Arse Picking Cheat Of All Time.
 
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Seek help DUDE! WTF are you talking about? Neither played much that I can remember w/ Fed in "LC," now Nole in Japan! WHAT? :cuckoo: :eek:

What does them playing or not have to do with their fans dissing Nadal on a daily bases? :cuckoo:
 

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thiem should beat murray today if he's at his best, but I hope murray will play a good level+push theim but yea anyway thiem should win the china open.
 

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Thiem should beat Murray today if he's at his best, but I hope Murray will play a good level+push Thiem... but yea... Anyway, Thiem should win the China Open.

Murray's tongue is already hanging out of his mouth after a rally went 37 shots in the 1st game he's serving! He really looks like an idiot continuing to play his ridiculous game of defense just running down shots 30 yds. behind the baseline! It's the most asinine thing for a top player to do; or someone trying to come back form injury or aging! Thiem broke after a long serving game for Murray! :whistle: :clap: :yesyes:
 
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Thiem served for match leading 5-4 and DF 3 times, On serve Murray leads 6-5 now

That was the first break by Murray this match
 

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murray had a good week two good wins but just is not ready to beat a player like thiem whos going to win the china open+ shanghai masters.
 

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encouraging week for Sir Andy, expected loss vs Dominator, hope he can play great in Shanghai
 

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All of the Top 4 seeds advanced into the semifinals. The semfinal matchups are set:

Dominic Thiem vs. Karen Khachanov

Stefanos Tsitsipas vs. Alexander Zverev

Two potential popcorn matches...

Also, all four of these players will play next week in Shanghai and they will get a bye in the first round as both Nadal and Nishikori will not play Shanghai Masters.