2025 Wimbledon Men's Final: Sinner v. Alcaraz

[Front242]

Thought Sinner was gonna drop serve at 4-3 tbh.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I'm happy for him. If he had lost from 2 sets to 1... good grief the trauma would have been too much

I would never survived lol!

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

What a great speech from Carlos, he has to be proud 5 titles and 1 GS title well done Carlos

 

[Jelenafan]

I have my rivalry unicorn !!!!!!!

 

[Federberg]

Another stat: Sinner joined Djokovic, Federer, Sampras, Lendl, and Borg as the only players to have consecutive multi-Slam seasons.

wow! Doesn't Rafa have that too?

Thought Sinner was gonna drop serve at 4-3 tbh.

that 2nd serve was NASTY

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

The first Italian to hold the trophy
I am crying now
Well done young man

 

[don_fabio]

Alcaraz tried to pull off RG comeback, but not this time amigo.

 

[El Dude]

wow! Doesn't Rafa have that too?

Nope. His multi-Slam seasons are separated: 2008, 2010, 2013, 2017, 2019, 2022.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Alcaraz tried to pull off RG comeback, but not this time amigo.

Don Hi!
I only needed my rosary beads when Jannik was serving for the title lol!
What a great game he played

 

[El Dude]

Consecutive Multi-Slam seasons:

Sinner: 2024-25 (2)
Djokovic: 2015-16 (2), 2018-19 (2)
Federer: 2004-07 (4)
Sampras: 1993-95 (3)
Lendl: 1986-87 (2)
Borg: 1978-80 (3)

 

[Fiero425]

Sinner does it! Good for him. Not a great day for Carlitos, but very solid from Jannik. Probably better for the rivalry, this way.

This was starting to look reminiscent of Fedal and their so called rivalry! After losing 5 in a row to Alcaraz, how can they call it that? Jannik saved it!

 

[Kieran]

I'm disappointed by this result but I think that I - along maybe with a few of us - might have to dampen down the expectations when Carlos plays. I believe he's with Rafa at being the fastest players in a long time to win 5 slams? I expect him to win every time he steps on court, he's that good. And I have to allow that at his age it can't always be a stellar upward trajectory, especially when his opponent plays as well as Sinner did today.

Sinner has been developing nicely in the shade, with lesser expectations and plaudits, but also with great consistency. I think they're both creating a truly spectacular and original rivalry, and that this match should be another signal in the road for Carlos, to help him grow to be even better. He's a genius, but even they have an off day. He needs to learn to win while not being at his peerless best...

 

[don_fabio]

Alcaraz played similar match like against Novak in AO this year. Playing from behind every set, getting broken early. You can't expect to win like that, Sinner is too good of a player.

 

[PhiEaglesfan712]

Congrats to Jannik, but I still believe that early Djokovic is better. Novak's losses in 2012 were to Federer, Andy Murray, and Juan Martin del Potro. Jannik lost to Bublik and was being dominated by Dmitrov. If you go back a year earlier, then Novak beat a peak Nadal to win Wimbledon (2011 was the last year of Nadal's peak; 2012 marked the first year of his decline with his upset loss to Rosol). Jannik, although he beat Hurkacz at Halle, lost to Medvedev at Wimbledon last year.

If Jannik struggled against Medvedev, Bublik, and Dmitrov, there's no way he's beating a peak 2011 Nadal, or even a 2012 Federer/Murray/del Potro on grass.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Alcaraz played similar match like against Novak in AO this year. Playing from behind every set, getting broken early. You can't expect to win like that, Sinner is too good of a player.

Janniik was able to sufficate Carlos from the baseline, I remember Shelton saying the same thing after their match, he gives you no time to think or return in points

 

[El Dude]

I'm disappointed by this result but I think that I - along maybe with a few of us - might have to dampen down the expectations when Carlos plays. I believe he's with Rafa at being the fastest players in a long time to win 5 slams? I expect him to win every time he steps on court, he's that good. And I have to allow that at his age it can't always be a stellar upward trajectory, especially when his opponent plays as well as Sinner did today.

Sinner has been developing nicely in the shade, with lesser expectations and plaudits, but also with great consistency. I think they're both creating a truly spectacular and original rivalry, and that this match should be another signal in the road for Carlos, to help him grow to be even better. He's a genius, but even they have an off day. He needs to learn to win while not being at his peerless best...

There's still a quality of rough edges with Alcaraz. Woe to the rest of the tour if he manages to smooth them out and retain his ferocity. The point being, I still think he could improve. Jannik, I think, is maxed out - or close to it.

So I wouldn't dampen expectations in that Carlos can win literally any match. But if you think he'll win every match, then sure .

As for quickest to five Slams:

Nadal (b. June 3, 1986) - 2008 Wimbledon (final on July 6, 2008). 22 years old, 1 month and 3 days.
Alcaraz (b. May 5, 2003) - 2025 Roland Garros (June 8, 2025). 22 years old, 1 month and 3 days.

Given that June is one day longer than May, I believe Alcaraz was one day younger than Nadal. Someone can check my math, though.

Oh, and...

Borg (b. June 6, 1956) - 1978 Roland Garros (June 11, 1978). 22 years old, 5 days.

So Borg was younger than Nadal and Alcaraz by about three weeks.

 

[kskate2]

Alcaraz tried to pull off RG comeback, but not this time amigo.

With that low serve % he wasn't completing any comeback. He can't expect that RG magic every time he plays where he can fall behind and miraculously turn it around. The goal should be not falling behind where some miraculous comeback is needed. He also had to know how hungry his opponent would be after losing last month.

 

[Kieran]

There's still a quality of rough edges with Alcaraz. Woe to the rest of the tour if he manages to smooth them out and retain his ferocity. The point being, I still think he could improve. Jannik, I think, is maxed out - or close to it.

So I wouldn't dampen expectations in that Carlos can win literally any match. But if you think he'll win every match, then sure .

As for quickest to five Slams:

Nadal (b. June 3, 1986) - 2008 Wimbledon (final on July 6, 2008). 22 years old, 1 month and 3 days.
Alcaraz (b. May 5, 2003) - 2025 Roland Garros (June 8, 2025). 22 years old, 1 month and 3 days.

Given that June is one day longer than May, I believe Alcaraz was one day younger than Nadal. Someone can check my math, though.

Oh, and...

Borg (b. June 6, 1956) - 1978 Roland Garros (June 11, 1978). 22 years old, 5 days.

So Borg was younger than Nadal and Alcaraz by about three weeks.

And Rafa then won his sixth in January 2009. With Carlos it wasn’t unreasonable that he’d win his sixth today, and then possibly a seventh in New York. Or if not then, wrap up a career slam in January in Oz, at still only 22.

He inspires these expectations because he’s just so good, but as you say, today the rough edges that blighted him on and off over the two weeks were more prominent than his strengths. It’s more realistic to expect this than to think he’ll win everything immediately.

Better for tennis too. Better for tennis that his main rival won a big one against him, as well, by being mentally stronger and better on the day. And very impressive that Sinner responded this way after his tough loss in Paris.

Tennis is unpredictable now, and that’s great..

 

[kskate2]

I'm disappointed by this result but I think that I - along maybe with a few of us - might have to dampen down the expectations when Carlos plays. I believe he's with Rafa at being the fastest players in a long time to win 5 slams? I expect him to win every time he steps on court, he's that good. And I have to allow that at his age it can't always be a stellar upward trajectory, especially when his opponent plays as well as Sinner did today.

Sinner has been developing nicely in the shade, with lesser expectations and plaudits, but also with great consistency. I think they're both creating a truly spectacular and original rivalry, and that this match should be another signal in the road for Carlos, to help him grow to be even better. He's a genius, but even they have an off day. He needs to learn to win while not being at his peerless best...

Well he's extremely erratic and prone to dropping serve here and there, aka the Charliecoaster. He can get away w/ Charlie rides against most of the tour, but when facing the top 10 especially at the business end of a slam, he can il afford to give away freebies. @El Dude is right, if he ever tightens up the erratic play, he becomes unplayable.

 

[El Dude]

And here's a nice little streak Sinner is on: 8 big title finals in a row, winning 6 of them.

Longest Big Title Finals Streaks:
18 - Novak Djokovic, 2014-16 (15-3)
12 - Roger Federer, 2005-06 (8-4)
8 - John McEnroe, 1983-84 (7-1)
8 - Jannik Sinner, 2024-25+ (6-2)
7 - Roger Federer, 2007 (4-3)
7 - Rafael Nadal, 2011 (2-5)

Roger's streak was crazy enough, but Novak...jeezus.