The Rankings Thread (ATP)

[Frode789]

With Kyrgios having withdrawn, Fed's top 8 ranking should be pretty secure until the grass season.

Don't think we can be so sure of that. There are three Masters and RG before grass. They together are worth 5000 points. Also, there are several itsy bitsy tourneys including a Barcy 500. So, lot of things could change, especially since Fed is going on a hiatus and will lose MC points during the hiatus.

If Fed wins IW and/or he reaches SF in Miami also, it is reasonably secure.

And also whether he decides to play a clay masters before RG or not. He might be able to scrap a few points there. (maybe )

 

[mightyjeditribble]

With Kyrgios having withdrawn, Fed's top 8 ranking should be pretty secure until the grass season.

Don't think we can be so sure of that. There are three Masters and RG before grass. They together are worth 5000 points. Also, there are several itsy bitsy tourneys including a Barcy 500. So, lot of things could change, especially since Fed is going on a hiatus and will lose MC points during the hiatus.

If Fed wins IW and/or he reaches SF in Miami also, it is reasonably secure.

Yeah, but people are going to be defending points from those tournaments also. I suppose that "pretty secure" may be overstating it, but as long as he has reasonable runs (say 4R/QF) in Miami/Rome/RG, he ought to more than compensate for the points he loses in Monte Carlo.

Thiem, for example, defends a SF at RG and QF in Rome, for 900 points in total from those two events. Cilic, admittedly, defends almost nothing on clay.

But I guess Fed is the favourite now to win IW - and if he does, or at least beats Sock to reach the final, this whole discussion becomes pretty academic.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

If Roger wins IW, he will be ranked #6. It is not clear whether Raonic is ready for action yet. Also, with the rumors that Novak is skipping Miami, there is a small, but non-negligible chance, that Roger may get a top four seeding in Miami (not that he needs it).

 

[GameSetAndMath]

As everyone knows, Sir Andy drops out of Miami. It looks like Raonic is ready to play. However, Fed will still get #4 seed, if he wins IW and if Novak drops out as rumored.

 

[herios]

If Roger wins IW, he will be ranked #6. It is not clear whether Raonic is ready for action yet. Also, with the rumors that Novak is skipping Miami, there is a small, but non-negligible chance, that Roger may get a top four seeding in Miami (not that he needs it).

The way he plays, he does not need it.

 

[Shivashish Sarkar]

If Roger wins IW, he will be ranked #6. It is not clear whether Raonic is ready for action yet. Also, with the rumors that Novak is skipping Miami, there is a small, but non-negligible chance, that Roger may get a top four seeding in Miami (not that he needs it).

The way he plays, he does not need it.

Yes, haha. But, I don't like that Miami surface at all. :nono

 

[GameSetAndMath]

It is now official. Novak has withdrawn from Miami. Therefore Stan will be the top seed in Miami.
Nishikori and Milos will be #2 and #3 respectively. If Roger wins the final today at IW, he will be the fourth seed; otherwise Rafa will be the fourth seed.

 

[herios]

New career high as of March 20, 2017:

17. Jack Sock 24y
19. Pablo Carreno-Busta 25y
42. Diego Schwartzman 24y
58. Yoshihito Nishioka 21y
66. Damir Dzumhur 24y

 

[DarthFed]

^Wow, that Nishioka is up to 58th already? Sock hasn't ever really impressed me that much but it's not that I don't like him. He just looks like a guy who will max out at or around #10.

 

[herios]

^Wow, that Nishioka is up to 58th already? Sock hasn't ever really impressed me that much but it's not that I don't like him. He just looks like a guy who will max out at or around #10.

I agree about Sock, a big serve and a strong FH was enough to get him here in the top 20. After seeing him more this week, I see where he is lacking, movement, speed and BH, without improvement in those areas, he will not get into the top 10.

 

[DarthFed]

^ Exactly what I thought too.

 

[britbox]

ATP Rankings - 20 March

1 (1) Andy Murray(Britain) 12005
2 (2) Novak Djokovic(Serbia) 8915
3 (3) Stan Wawrinka(Switzerland) 5705
4 (5) Kei Nishikori(Japan) 4730
5 (4) Milos Raonic(Canada) 4480
6 (10) Roger Federer(Switzerland) 4305
7 (6) Rafa Nadal(Spain) 4145
8 (9) Dominic Thiem(Austria) 3465
9 (7) Marin Cilic(Croatia) 3420
10 (8) Jo-Wilfried Tsonga(France) 3310
11 (11) Gael Monfils(France) 3190
12 (12) David Goffin(Belgium) 2975
13 (13) Grigor Dimitrov(Bulgaria) 2960
14 (14) Tomas Berdych(Czech Republic) 2790
15 (15) Lucas Pouille(France) 2456
16 (16) Nick Kyrgios(Australia) 2425
17 (18) Jack Sock(U.S.) 2375
18 (17) Roberto Bautista(Spain) 2190
19 (23) Pablo Carreno(Spain) 2025
20 (20) Alexander Zverev(Germany) 1850
21 (21) Ivo Karlovic(Croatia) 1840
22 (19) Richard Gasquet(France) 1830
23 (22) John Isner(U.S.) 1715
24 (24) Albert Ramos(Spain) 1640
25 (25) Gilles Simon(France) 1495
26 (30) Pablo Cuevas(Uruguay) 1460
27 (26) Sam Querrey(U.S.) 1445
28 (27) Steve Johnson(U.S.) 1415
29 (28) Gilles Muller(Luxembourg) 1390
30 (29) Fernando Verdasco(Spain) 1325
31 (31) Philipp Kohlschreiber(Germany) 1270
32 (32) David Ferrer(Spain) 1265
33 (33) Mischa Zverev(Germany) 1251
34 (35) Juan Martin Del Potro(Argentina) 1175
35 (37) Joao Sousa(Portugal) 1115
36 (34) Feliciano Lopez(Spain) 1090
37 (38) Paolo Lorenzi(Italy) 1082
38 (39) Viktor Troicki(Serbia) 1075
39 (40) Benoit Paire(France) 1040
40 (43) Fabio Fognini(Italy) 1025
41 (36) Marcel Granollers(Spain) 973
42 (44) Diego Schwartzman(Argentina) 955
43 (41) Daniel Evans(Britain) 951
44 (42) Bernard Tomic(Australia) 950
45 (46) Kyle Edmund(Britain) 948
46 (48) Florian Mayer(Germany) 913
47 (45) Ryan Harrison(U.S.) 910
48 (47) Robin Haase(Netherlands) 908
49 (50) Steve Darcis(Belgium) 899
50 (51) Marcos Baghdatis(Cyprus) 895
51 (60) Donald Young(U.S.) 881
52 (52) Karen Khachanov(Russia) 875
53 (53) Malek Jaziri(Tunisia) 873
54 (56) Jiri Vesely(Czech Republic) 863
55 (54) Nicolas Mahut(France) 855
56 (57) Nicolas Almagro(Spain) 845
57 (49) Federico Delbonis(Argentina) 840
58 (70) Yoshihito Nishioka(Japan) 814
59 (55) Nikoloz Basilashvili(Georgia) 807
60 (58) Daniil Medvedev(Russia) 807
61 (66) Martin Klizan(Slovakia) 790
62 (59) Borna Coric(Croatia) 780
63 (63) Jan-Lennard Struff(Germany) 778
64 (65) Lu Yen-Hsun(Taiwan) 773
65 (61) Adrian Mannarino(France) 771
66 (67) Damir Dzumhur(Bosnia and Herzegovina) 769
67 (64) Alexandr Dolgopolov(Ukraine) 765
68 (62) Andrey Kuznetsov(Russia) 755
69 (68) Carlos Berlocq(Argentina) 754
70 (69) Denis Istomin(Uzbekistan) 723
71 (71) Thomaz Bellucci(Brazil) 721
72 (72) Juan Monaco(Argentina) 720
73 (74) Pierre-Hugues Herbert(France) 712
74 (79) Kevin Anderson(South Africa) 705
75 (73) Horacio Zeballos(Argentina) 704
76 (90) Mikhail Kukushkin(Kazakhstan) 701
77 (80) Jeremy Chardy(France) 700
78 (82) Dustin Brown(Germany) 691
79 (76) Jordan Thompson(Australia) 686
80 (75) Andreas Seppi(Italy) 685
81 (99) Evgeny Donskoy(Russia) 670
82 (77) Thiago Monteiro(Brazil) 667
83 (78) Dudi Sela(Israel) 663
84 (85) Rogerio Dutra Silva(Brazil) 653
85 (106) Dusan Lajovic(Serbia) 648
86 (87) Radu Albot(Moldova) 639
87 (84) Mikhail Youzhny(Russia) 631
88 (81) Stephane Robert(France) 625
89 (95) Gastao Elias(Portugal) 606
90 (89) Guillermo Garcia-Lopez(Spain) 605
91 (91) Victor Estrella(Dominican Republic) 604
92 (92) Chung Hyeon(South Korea) 604
93 (97) Janko Tipsarevic(Serbia) 603
94 (105) Aljaz Bedene(Britain) 602
95 (93) Jared Donaldson(U.S.) 598
96 (94) Adam Pavlasek(Czech Republic) 596
97 (115) Yuichi Sugita(Japan) 593
98 (88) Renzo Olivo(Argentina) 592
99 (98) Radek Stepanek(Czech Republic) 587
100 (119) Taro Daniel(Japan) 587

 

[herios]

I am overdue with the last 3 weeks of new career high for the ATP top 100 ranked players:

new career highs Mar. 6, 3027:

41. Daniel Evans 26y
67. Damir Dzumhur 24y
70. Yoshihito Nishioka 21y
86. Frances Tiafoe 19y

 

[herios]

New career high as of March 20, 2017:

17. Jack Sock 24y
19. Pablo Carreno-Busta 25y
42. Diego Schwartzman 24y
58. Yoshihito Nishioka 21y
66. Damir Dzumhur 24y

 

[Moxie]

Nishioka is moving with a bullet.

 

[mightyjeditribble]

If Rafa and Nishikori both reach the semis (as seems more likely than not given the state of the bottom half), Fed will need semis to enter top 5 and win the title for the #4 spot.

If one of them misses the semis, Fed is guaranteed top 5 and needs to match the other for #4 ranking.

Not bad given where he started the year ...

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[MartyB]

Depending on what happens in Miami with Fed/Nadal does anyone know if they will definitely both be top 5?

 

[Moxie]

Depending on what happens in Miami with Fed/Nadal does anyone know if they will definitely both be top 5?

They should be. Right now they're trading 4 & 5, with Rafa at 4, because he's a round ahead. Milos is at 6 and Kei and 7. Everyone above and close enough below is out of the tournament. Berdych is next below still in, and even if he won, he couldn't catch either of them.

 

[DarthFed]

Yes, they both have jumped Kei and Milos after this tournament. The only thing to decide is which of them will be #4 after the tournament, if Rafa goes further it's him, if Fed has the same or better result as Rafa it's him.

 

[Ricardo]

Yes, they both have jumped Kei and Milos after this tournament. The only thing to decide is which of them will be #4 after the tournament, if Rafa goes further it's him, if Fed has the same or better result as Rafa it's him.

oh yeah cream does rise to the top, except they are like old soup being reheated too many times