Serious PC thread

[Kieran]

hmmmm... you know what side I'm on in these debates normally, but I have to that first clip? I'm struggling to find a standalone reason for that question to have been justified. That's like asking a man when he last had a boner or asking a woman if she's on her period, with absolutely no justification for the question

Well I suppose it’s like all of us who can still locate our marbles, when we’re confronted by a man who’s trying to pass himself off as a woman, we’re politely trying to point out the anomaly of a woman having a prick.

I think the way this shambles will eventually fall to the ground is continued emphasis on the fact that real women and men don’t need the qualifying term “trans-“ before their fictional identity.

Someday then, real feminists will return to the fold and stop prioritising men at the expense of women…

 

[mrzz]

hmmmm... you know what side I'm on in these debates normally, but I have to that first clip? I'm struggling to find a standalone reason for that question to have been justified. That's like asking a man when he last had a boner or asking a woman if she's on her period, with absolutely no justification for the question

hmmm.... I strongly feel the context explains the question. They are debating some issue important enough to be debated in a public arena. It is not like the guy just bumped in to her and asked "hey, do you have a penis"?

And, the inability to face those intimate questions, which in this case are in the center of the debate and cannot be ignored, is really telling. If she (and notice the pronoun I am using) had calmly answered "yes", it would have shown maturity and maybe would be a first step into a meaningful debate.

By the way, by using "she" I am not saying anything about her biological sex, I am basically being nice to her. She still needs to get her prostate checked when she gets to 50, and has no business going to a gynecologist. This is not controversial...

 

[Federberg]

hmmm.... I strongly feel the context explains the question. They are debating some issue important enough to be debated in a public arena. It is not like the guy just bumped in to her and asked "hey, do you have a penis"?

And, the inability to face those intimate questions, which in this case are in the center of the debate and cannot be ignored, is really telling. If she (and notice the pronoun I am using) had calmly answered "yes", it would have shown maturity and maybe would be a first step into a meaningful debate.

By the way, by using "she" I am not saying anything about her biological sex, I am basically being nice to her. She still needs to get her prostate checked when she gets to 50, and has no business going to a gynecologist. This is not controversial...

I'm not so sure. She's already stated that she's a trans-woman (like you I'm trying to be polite! ). But there has to be decorum. Look.. I firmly believe that if you have the XY chromosome then you shouldn't be in a woman's bathroom, I don't care if you've had your willy chopped off. No entry.. PERIOD. But... imagine a woman - a real one - being asked if she's a woman, she says yes.. then the next question comes... do you have a vagina? You must admit, in normal society that's just a step too far? In a court of law that would be considered badgering the witness!

 

[Kieran]

I'm not so sure. She's already stated that she's a trans-woman (like you I'm trying to be polite! ). But there has to be decorum. Look.. I firmly believe that if you have the XY chromosome then you shouldn't be in a woman's bathroom, I don't care if you've had your willy chopped off. No entry.. PERIOD. But... imagine a woman - a real one - being asked if she's a woman, she says yes.. then the next question comes... do you have a vagina? You must admit, in normal society that's just a step too far? In a court of law that would be considered badgering the witness!

It’s called “beavering the witness” when it’s a woman..

 

[mrzz]

I'm not so sure. She's already stated that she's a trans-woman (like you I'm trying to be polite! ). But there has to be decorum. Look.. I firmly believe that if you have the XY chromosome then you shouldn't be in a woman's bathroom, I don't care if you've had your willy chopped off. No entry.. PERIOD. But... imagine a woman - a real one - being asked if she's a woman, she says yes.. then the next question comes... do you have a vagina? You must admit, in normal society that's just a step too far? In a court of law that would be considered badgering the witness!

We will agree to disagree. I think people need to be mature enough to navigate those questions. Given the conversation and the world we live in, it is easy to imagine a situation where such a question would be justifiable (but I don't know if that's the case here).

In any case, you are being nicer than me. No problem in playing bad cop once in a while....

 

[Federberg]

We will agree to disagree. I think people need to be mature enough to navigate those questions. Given the conversation and the world we live in, it is easy to imagine a situation where such a question would be justifiable (but I don't know if that's the case here).

In any case, you are being nicer than me. No problem in playing bad cop once in a while....

lol! That's one for the books, me being the nicer one

I just don't understand how the "situation" justified the question. This person was honest and confirmed they were a trans-person. I'm not sure it needed to be investigated further. Unless the questioner was trying to impose some sort of hierarchy of badness? i.e, a trans-woman with a penis is worse than a trans-woman who's had the snip? I consider myself ideologically pure on this... I don't care whether you have a penis nor not... YOU ARE NOT A WOMAN..... period

 

[Kieran]

This is typical of a society that celebrates chronic mental illness, and the sexualising and abuse of children.

 

[Federberg]

This is typical of a society that celebrates chronic mental illness, and the sexualising and abuse of children.

how is this book not banned? Or at least kept away from children??

 

[Kieran]

how is this book not banned? Or at least kept away from children??

It’s a good question, and the only reason I can think is that the left still dominate culturally and so their most depraved ideas go unchecked?

 

[Federberg]

It’s a good question, and the only reason I can think is that the left still dominate culturally and so their most depraved ideas go unchecked?

did you see the comments? Western society is utterly broken

 

[Kieran]

did you see the comments? Western society is utterly broken

Yeah, I thought a lot of them were rehearsed and planted though. Normalising this kind of thing is the first victory..

 

[Kieran]

Now this will be very interesting, with an added potential for some great comedy too. Egypt and Iran are both in Group G in next summers World Cup in North America. They will actually face each other in one of terror group Antifa’s stomping grounds - literally: Seattle.

And Fifa have planned to hold a Pride celebration before the match. The full Nuremberg rally of flags, waving proudly all the Pride movements confused and abusive gender innovations.

And both Iran and Egypt have said, WTF?

What will happen? Will FIFA buckle in the face of pressure from Islamists? And will the homegrown terrorists protest this possible backdown, given that they would hold similar hatred of America to Iran, but they’d also have to betray their far left allies in pink?

Can’t wait to see how this plays out.

From the BBC:

Egypt’s F.A. Wants World Cup Pride Plans Cancelled

 

[Kieran]

This gonna grow, and it highlights more than I even thought of above: why TF are FIFA even having a “Pride designated match?” Toxic American ideas are going to make this World Cup stink. Bad enough that they’re gonna have a Super Bowl-style ego fest at half time in the final.

 

[Federberg]

This woman really nails the fundamental problem with feminism. I don't believe I've ever heard it articulated so well!

"the male ideal of success ruined women"

 

[Federberg]

well done ladies!

 

[Federberg]

Insanity!

 

[Kieran]

Insanity!

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Well there you have it. Because we chose to normalise shite like this, we have created legal vagueness that benefits opportunist creeps..

 

[Federberg]

I've talked about this before. Glad this woman is talking about it. Maybe those that disagree will accuse her of misogyny too!

 

[Murat B.]

My eyes glaze over when I am in an event and they start the land acknowledgement thing...If they did this around where I am originally from, there would be no events at all, just talk for hours about who took what land from what ....This nonsense has to stop. Like Quintus said in Braveheart, people should know when they are conquered. There is no stolen stolen land, only conquered land.

 

[Kieran]

My eyes glaze over when I am in an event and they start the land acknowledgement thing...If they did this around where I am originally from, there would be no events at all, just talk for hours about who took what land from what ....This nonsense has to stop. Like Quintus said in Braveheart, people should know when they are conquered. There is no stolen stolen land, only conquered land.

They did it before the final and I spat my chips out. Give the f**king land back or STFU.

Simple…but these people are truly pathetic and hypocritical, rubbing the original occupants noses in it….

“Hey, we’ve got your land. We’re not giving it back but we just thought we’d humble-brag a little and get some kudos…”