Poll: which shot was an easier/worse/more inexcusable miss by Federer against Nadal?

Which shot was an easier/worse/more inexcusable miss by Federer against Gnatal?

  • The put-away forehand at Hamburg 2008 at 5-1, 40-30

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The drop-shot at Roland Garros 2011 at 5-2, AD-Federer

    Votes: 2 100.0%

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calitennis127

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I remember both matches well. The pos was down 2-5 in the first set in Hamburg 2008 and took a medical timeout and down 2-5 in set 1 of RG 2011 he changed his bandages taking way more than the allocated time to deliberately ruin Federer's momentum. Unsporting pos of the highest order. Note the same scoreline in each and when being soundly thumped he had no option but to use his dirty bag of tricks.

Admittedly Federer shouldn't have lost focus but that's easier said than done when your body cools down from stopped play and ruined rhythm. The clowns here proclaiming him a god fail to realize he's done this and other things to Federer A LOT. If he's so amazing and so superior to Federer (in their eyes only btw) then why exactly does he need to do these things? Because he's not. He's gotta try and win some other way when losing. Wimbledon this year again when Federer was serving for the match and Indian Wells 2012 semi when he was serving for the match he runs off to the toilet. A prick. Nuff said.

Re the shots in the poll, who cares. Can't change history but we can remember history and history will remember those unsporting match changing tactics the prick used many times. Those 2 matches in your poll are good examples along with the others I mentioned.




I still think that it is mostly Federer's fault for not closing the deal in those sets when he was clearly the far superior player but, to your point, I can't imagine Nadal fans being so glib if an opposing player disrupted Nadal's rhythm that way. You do have a strong point there.
 
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Lol.....and you actually think it was serious? His hamstring was in such bad condition, evidently, that he was able to come back and win the first set from 5-1 down and then win the match in 3 sets after losing the second set tiebreak. Then he went on a few weeks later to win Roland Garros in one of the most dominant clay court performances of his career.

And you are acting like Front is crazy to suggest he was at least somewhat faking it?

Why do you have to assume such superior virtue for Nadal simply because you like him? Your bias at times is so excessive that you can't be even remotely balanced or evenhanded.
 
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i saw that match in its entirety. Rafa came into the match a bit nervous and his game was cold which led to the slow start. About 35 mins into the match, Rafa forehand was finally dialed in and he began to control the center of the court. The ball began bounce higher and began to kick high to Roger backhand. Roger foolishly thought he could claim the set from the baseline but Rafa began to dictate the pace of the rallies. Game , set Match.. TOUCHE’


Did Roger "foolishly" think he could go up 5-1 in the first set from the baseline too? That is a ridiculous argument. You should just acknowledge that Federer blew it in not closing out the first set. It's kind of hard to argue against that one when someone is up 5-1, 40-30 on serve and misses a forehand inside the service line to finish off the set. But I see Nadal fans are finding a way.
 

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nadal been a better mover on court than Federer, that's why him[ Federer] has always looked a little on slow in their matches even then he's won.


No, Nadal has a sturdier backhand and Federer has stupidly pounded it away at on numerous occasions with CC forehands that have done nothing except allow Nadal to tee off on passing shots and CC backhands.

It had nothing to do with movement and everything to do with Federer constructing points terribly.
 

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Did Roger "foolishly" think he could go up 5-1 in the first set from the baseline too? That is a ridiculous argument. You should just acknowledge that Federer blew it in not closing out the first set. It's kind of hard to argue against that one when someone is up 5-1, 40-30 on serve and misses a forehand inside the service line to finish off the set. But I see Nadal fans are finding a way.
That's not my opinion it's actually what transpired..I would suggest that you watch the match again..Now if you want to say the "choked" word , that's your choice..Rafa played almost flawless tennis late in the 1st set..Cali..We are what we are.. Nadal's defense that translates to offense on the red dirt at RG maybe the most dominating weapon in sports including team sports. Numbers don't lie. However your analysis of Rafa's game through your eyes are just blurred lines. I mean no disrespect because I believe you truly believe that Rafa's game is less than extraordinary.
 

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That's not my opinion it's actually what transpired..I would suggest that you watch the match again..Now if you want to say the "choked" word , that's your choice..Rafa played almost flawless tennis late in the 1st set..Cali..We are what we are.. Nadal's defense that translates to offense on the red dirt at RG maybe the most dominating weapon in sports including team sports. Numbers don't lie. However your analysis of Rafa's game through your eyes are just blurred lines. I mean no disrespect because I believe you truly believe that Rafa's game is less than extraordinary.


I think you are talking about Roland Garros 2011.....I was talking about Hamburg 2008. Either way, I found Federer's relentless pounding of Nadal's backhand with CC forehands to be one of the most muscleheaded/mindless tactics I have ever witnessed in sports.

Nadal does an excellent job of absorbing pace directed at his backhand.....he always has. If you hit flat to his backhand, he will get it back 9 times out of 10. If you hit flat to his forehand, that number drops to 4 or 5, sometimes lower depending on the day.

For Federer to just continuously hit massive forehands to Nadal's backhand was beyond stupid.
 

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I think you are talking about Roland Garros 2011.....I was talking about Hamburg 2008. Either way, I found Federer's relentless pounding of Nadal's backhand with CC forehands to be one of the most muscleheaded/mindless tactics I have ever witnessed in sports.

Nadal does an excellent job of absorbing pace directed at his backhand.....he always has. If you hit flat to his backhand, he will get it back 9 times out of 10. If you hit flat to his forehand, that number drops to 4 or 5, sometimes lower depending on the day.

For Federer to just continuously hit massive forehands to Nadal's backhand was beyond stupid.
Yes Sir..I am talking about RG 2011..
 

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Yes Sir..I am talking about RG 2011..


Even so, do you really think there was nothing Federer could have done to close out the set? Are you trying to say that from 5-2 on Nadal was so perfect and so good that Federer literally had no options to adjust?
 

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Even so, do you really think there was nothing Federer could have done to close out the set? Are you trying to say that from 5-2 on Nadal was so perfect and so good that Federer literally had no options to adjust?

Yes. You finally get it. :clap::bye:
 

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Even so, do you really think there was nothing Federer could have done to close out the set? Are you trying to say that from 5-2 on Nadal was so perfect and so good that Federer literally had no options to adjust?
adjust that making more errors then he was already going all out hitting the lines that else do you that federer to do play like like nadal lol. game plan always your dumb excurse like a coach everytime hes team losses trying not to get sacked.
 

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adjust that making more errors then he was already going all out hitting the lines that else do you that federer to do play like like nadal lol. game plan always your dumb excurse like a coach everytime hes team losses trying not to get sacked.


Okay so do you really think that Federer got those leads in Hamburg and Roland Garros by just hitting lines? Are you serious? Lol.
 

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Okay so do you really think that Federer got those leads in Hamburg and Roland Garros by just hitting lines? Are you serious? Lol.
the watched the matches Federer was going all out and still could not win.
 

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Even so, do you really think there was nothing Federer could have done to close out the set? Are you trying to say that from 5-2 on Nadal was so perfect and so good that Federer literally had no options to adjust?
Cali, if I could have convinced my mom to purchase 50k shares of Microsoft stock in 1986, I would've been wealthy..

Roger tennis IQ may be the highest EVER since McEnroe or better..Roger played the best game he had in his arsenal but he was playing the best player of his generation on that player's best surface..It's almost unholy you questions Roger's IQ and game strategic choice. Hell. Roger played a lot better than he did in the O8 RG final.
Go Niners
 
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