2025 ATP General News

[MargaretMcAleer]

In almost all cases, and if Djokovic was seeded 3rd, being seeded 4th would be a huge advantage. However, in this slam, Djokovic being seeded out of the Top 4 is a fly in the ointment. It's possible between Fritz and Draper, one could be seeded 4th and get Djokovic in their quarter, and the other player be seeded 5th or 6th and be in Zverev's quarter.

I think for a player like Fritz or Draper, it's more crucial to avoid Djokovic in the quarters than having a Top 4 seed. Neither of them are beating Djokovic/Alcaraz/Sinner back-to-back-to-back Top 4 seed or not.

In Every Case being seeded fourth is a Huge Advantage full stop!
You keep speaking in hypotheticals? saying if Novak was seeded 3rd? lets stick to the facts, Zverev is seeded 3rd and that cant change,
Anyway Fritz just lost his match to Moutet meaning he will drop to 4,635 points
Jack Draper is still in the mix at present in London
Fritz I believe will play Eastbourne, apparently even though Fritz won Eastbourne last year, the tournament dosent count towards the seedings at Wimbledon

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

BTW,
Sinner breaking Novak's reconrd as 54 consecutive weeks as World No 1 ( Novak was at 53)

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I don't understand this. 53 consecutive weeks is not the record - not even Novak's best run, which was 122 weeks in 2014-16.

And of course the record is Roger with 237 weeks in 2004-08.

Agree 53 weeks it was not Novaks best run, of course Roger 237 weeks in 2004-08 was off the charts

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

With Taylor Fritz loss today to Moutet at Queens
Jack Draper will have to reach the SF at Queens, he will be the 4th seed at Wimbledon
That would be massive as he would avoid Sinner, Alcaraz and Zverev all until the SFs

 

[Fiero425]

I don't understand this. 53 consecutive weeks is not the record - not even Novak's best run, which was 122 weeks in 2014-16.

And of course the record is Roger with 237 weeks in 2004-08.

I thought the same thing, but that list was showing the 1st reign of each player at #1! Novak only held #1 ranking for 53 wks. from Wimbledon in 2011 to Summer of 2012! The ranking bounced amongst the Big 3 all season before Djokovic took it over for good at YE!

 

[Moxie]

Isn’t that basically what I just said, that if he continues to play it’s a new reality?

Fine, if it’s debate, well then there’s more to playing than just getting a 25th Slam or another Olympics, maybe he goes on playing because he enjoys the sport.

He loves the sport, I'm sure. And he loves the competition, too, I'm also sure of that. It's a driving factor for top athletes. However, he's used to winning a lot. His love for the competition and the sport may wane when he's winning a lot less. But if he keeps getting to SFs and Fs, that may be enough to keep the belief, and the love of the game.

 

[Moxie]

I kind of felt for Fonseca in his match today in Halle, he slipped over on the grass, giving the point to Cobolli in the 3rd set TB and the match 76(8) he is currently on court with Stefs brother Petros in a doubles match ( they lost in straight sets)

But that's why you have to get used to the grass. Cobolli had his feet under him better. He played a great match.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

But that's why you have to get used to the grass. Cobolli had his feet under him better. He played a great match.

Honestly I thought my Italian would win, still felt for Fonseca when he slipped over,
Fonseca is down to play more tournaments on grass, hopefully he will find his grass feet, some players adjust quicker than others coming from the clay

 

[Moxie]

I don't understand this. 53 consecutive weeks is not the record - not even Novak's best run, which was 122 weeks in 2014-16.

And of course the record is Roger with 237 weeks in 2004-08.

It's the record for first run at #1.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

He loves the sport, I'm sure. And he loves the competition, too, I'm also sure of that. It's a driving factor for top athletes. However, he's used to winning a lot. His love for the competition and the sport may wane when he's winning a lot less. But if he keeps getting to SFs and Fs, that may be enough to keep the belief, and the love of the game.

This is becoming a big Yawn and relentless to me Period,
Fact is that becuase Novak is not in the mix at 38 yo is that players like Aclaraz and Sinner and others have worked out how to beat him
I mean he comes on social media the other day carrying on that he knows he isnt like as much as Federer and Nadal? he is still carrying on with that Crap
Novak has only himself to blame, he has always been 'needy' even today in 2025.
Good for him if he wants to play the Olympics but honestly I cannot see that happening, he already has got a Gold Medal what is the point?
I didnt realize he had so many people at TF on his payroll

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Wimbledon update:
OUT: Krygios
IN: Quinn.
Next:Fognini, this is a suprise to me as The Fog went out in rd 1 of a challenger the other day

 

[Moxie]

This is becoming a big Yawn and relentless to me Period,
Fact is that becuase Novak is not in the mix at 38 yo is that players like Aclaraz and Sinner and others have worked out how to beat him
I mean he comes on social media the other day carrying on that he knows he isnt like as much as Federer and Nadal? he is still carrying on with that Crap
Novak has only himself to blame, he has always been 'needy' even today in 2025.
Good for him if he wants to play the Olympics but honestly I cannot see that happening, he already has got a Gold Medal what is the point?
I didnt realize he had so many people at TF on his payroll

if it's boring to you, you can skip this part. Some of us are still interested in how much longer he will play, and why. We are not on the payroll. We are just willing to keep gaming it.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

if it's boring to you, you can skip this part. Some of us are still interested in how much longer he will play, and why. We are not on the payroll. We are just willing to keep gaming it.

I never said you were on his pay roll so dont take me out of context thanks
I never thought you were such a fan of Novak over the years, whatever,

 

[Jelenafan]

While it is tempting to be (irrationally) disappointed that Fonseca hasn't taken a next step up yet, it is important to remember that he is really in his first go-around on tour. What is impressive is that he's not getting blown out in any losses, except maybe to Jack Draper at Roland Garros. But Draper has ranked as high as #4 and in his prime. This is who Fonseca is now, at 18, imagine what he's going to be a year from now, two, three. In other words, once he does it all once, he can apply what he's learned, feel more comfortable, and take that next step forward.

He reminds me a bit of a top baseball hitting prospect in his first few months. He wows people with his ability, and beats many established pitchers, but then gets wake-up calls when he faces really good pitchers. But like that hitter, Fonseca is learning and he seems OK with that. I imagine that once he plays another few dozen matches (plus or minus), he's going to click and jump a level. While it could happen earlier, my prediction is that he has his "elite breakout"--which I define as either winning a Masters or reaching maybe a Slam SF--in the first half of next year.

Careful now, I’m getting “FAA is the next Slam champion” Deja vu flashback vibes from all this Fonseca talk…. ; )

 

[Jelenafan]

if it's boring to you, you can skip this part. Some of us are still interested in how much longer he will play, and why. We are not on the payroll. We are just willing to keep gaming it.

But if someone claims it’s boring and they could care less about a subject but continues to bitch about it and discuss it here themselves…. ; )

 

[Moxie]

I never said you were on his pay roll so dont take me out of context thanks
I never thought you were such a fan of Novak over the years, whatever,

You said we all were, but I know you were joking. As was I. I'm no fan of Novak, as you well know. I'm just curious as to how long he will hang in there. I'm interested to discuss it.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

You said we all were, but I know you were joking. As was I. I'm no fan of Novak, as you well know. I'm just curious as to how long he will hang in there. I'm interested to discuss it.

Okay fair point if you want to continue to discuss it

 

[Moxie]

Careful now, I’m getting “FAA is the next Slam champion” Deja vu flashback vibes from all this Fonseca talk…. ; )

It could come to nothing, or not enough, but I agree with El Dude, (and others) that Fonseca is probably the real deal. It's not just his tennis. Fonseca also has the "it" factor that makes people want to watch him. FAA just plays pretty tennis. Fonseca is already someone everyone wants to watch. And he's got the right ambition. Killer instinct. He fell on his ass a few times today. He'll get better on grass, I suspect.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

It could come to nothing, or not enough, but I agree with El Dude, (and others) that Fonseca is probably the real deal. It's not just his tennis. Fonseca also has the "it" factor that makes people want to watch him. FAA just plays pretty tennis. Fonseca is already someone everyone wants to watch. And he's got the right ambition. Killer instinct. He fell on his ass a few times today. He'll get better on grass, I suspect.

You understand Grass is for Cows No?
Fonseca is the 'real deal' just wait till he puts his game together, his technique is just wonderful, he has been taught correctly from a young age, the amount of power on his fhand is just 'bullet like" also he has a well rounded game.and he has a good head on his shoulders.apart from the "It' factor

 

[Jelenafan]

It could come to nothing, or not enough, but I agree with El Dude, (and others) that Fonseca is probably the real deal. It's not just his tennis. Fonseca also has the "it" factor that makes people want to watch him. FAA just plays pretty tennis. Fonseca is already someone everyone wants to watch. And he's got the right ambition. Killer instinct. He fell on his ass a few times today. He'll get better on grass, I suspect.

I was joking, going out on a limb as a fan doesn’t always pay off but it’s what we do. As a fan of little Holger I should know…; )

However in hindsight it’s easy to say FAA now “just plays pretty”, there was quite a lot of praise and upward mobility predictions for the Canadian at the time.

Hard to gauge, I thought Sinner lacked the killer instinct after a couple of neutral years before he cranked it up last year.