2025 ATP General News

[MargaretMcAleer]

He should. For abusing the umpire. That’s the kind of thing the ATP should police. But they’re not the police in the outside world. If a players partner runs to them to complain about what happened at home, they can give them the relevant number to contact with their complaint, and they can inform the player they received a complaint too.

And then leave it at that..

Further reading of the Safeguarding Program, to create a culture where everyone involved in our sport participates in preventing harm or abuse.
New confidential and anonymous channels allow anyone to report concerns about bullying, sexual harassment, violence or domestic abuse.
Provisional Suspensions,
The ATP can now impose provisional suspensions in cases involving allegations of violence or abuse while investigations are ongoing.
File a report with the ATP Safeguarding team via email, all reports will be handled with care and confidentiality.Andrew Azzopardi, Director at Safeguarding.
The Safeguarding Program comes into effect as of 2026 ( which is now on my time line you guys are always a step behind me

 

[El Dude]

It's on point, too. I sense also some bogus "mental health" pandemic incoming that they'll use to water-down competitiveness. Just let the dogs loose and watch em brawl. All the other private life stuff, as Don Draper told Peggy, that's what the money is for...

Well, Naomi Osaka might be the canary in that coal mine.

Again, not to diminish real mental health concerns - or to suggest that Osaka's were fake (I'll take her at her word). But I can tell you as someone who has worked with teens for the last 20 years, the overall direction is...worrisome. I think some of it is legit, and largely due to the long-term impact of cellphone addiction, social media, etc. Some of it also has to do with coming of age in this time - 2020, in particular,, and various other factors. But there's also a major element of the way "disability" and "mental illness" is identified with and leveraged. More and more kids have some kind of Official Label or designation; and quite a few kids have self-chosen labels and identifies that they (imo) solidify prematurely as some kind of permanent, non-changeable thing.

For example, I had one kid tell me that being trans is just as intrinsic as being gay. Meaning, you're born trans. I'm not saying that's impossible, but I can't agree, at least at this point, and think it is mostly nurture, not nature (I do think homosexuality is usually nature). Actually, quite a number of "LGB" activists differentiate themselves from. "T" and even complain that a lot of young people who are naturally "LGB" are now imprinted to think that this must eventually lead to "T."

Anyhow, I didn't openly disagree with them, though - partially because to do so could have gotten me fired. That sort of ties into what you're talking about, how quite understandable protections against abuse and/or support for legitimate challenges bleeds into self-assigned identifies and even faux mental issues, some of which could simply be resolved through, well, growing up.

 

[Kieran]

Well, Naomi Osaka might be the canary in that coal mine.

Again, not to diminish real mental health concerns - or to suggest that Osaka's were fake (I'll take her at her word). But I can tell you as someone who has worked with teens for the last 20 years, the overall direction is...worrisome. I think some of it is legit, and largely due to the long-term impact of cellphone addiction, social media, etc. Some of it also has to do with coming of age in this time - 2020, in particular,, and various other factors. But there's also a major element of the way "disability" and "mental illness" is identified with and leveraged. More and more kids have some kind of Official Label or designation; and quite a few kids have self-chosen labels and identifies that they (imo) solidify prematurely as some kind of permanent, non-changeable thing.

For example, I had one kid tell me that being trans is just as intrinsic as being gay. Meaning, you're born trans. I'm not saying that's impossible, but I can't agree, at least at this point, and think it is mostly nurture, not nature (I do think homosexuality is usually nature). Actually, quite a number of "LGB" activists differentiate themselves from. "T" and even complain that a lot of young people who are naturally "LGB" are now imprinted to think that this must eventually lead to "T."

Anyhow, I didn't openly disagree with them, though - partially because to do so could have gotten me fired. That sort of ties into what you're talking about, how quite understandable protections against abuse and/or support for legitimate challenges bleeds into self-assigned identifies and even faux mental issues, some of which could simply be resolved through, well, growing up.

You’re a much better man than me if you take Naomi-me-me! at her word. She’s an example of the problem. The champagne chomping victim. I’m sure some players do have mental health issues but I see modern life as you do, with cellphone addiction and weird social media contagions (trans etc) being hoovered up by an eagerly greedy media. The suicide spoof. Funny how so many of them are supposedly suicidal because they’re trans. It makes no sense. Today is the perfect day to be ill-fitting. Generations past, when “cross-dressers” and “trannies” were considered to be circus-freak adjacent would be the time you’d have expected suicide epidemics, not today, when Hollywood stars wheel their little Frankenmonsters out for the press to ejaculate over.

Strange times. We don’t need the ATP to take on the role of achieving world peace in the players boudoirs. In my day, they knew their place, which was tennis. Course, this was all fields round here back then..

 

[El Dude]

You’re a much better man than me if you take Naomi-me-me! at her word. She’s an example of the problem. The champagne chomping victim. I’m sure some players do have mental health issues but I see modern life as you do, with cellphone addiction and weird social media contagions (trans etc) being hoovered up by an eagerly greedy media. The suicide spoof. Funny how so many of them are supposedly suicidal because they’re trans. It makes no sense. Today is the perfect day to be ill-fitting. Generations past, when “cross-dressers” and “trannies” were considered to be circus-freak adjacent would be the time you’d have expected suicide epidemics, not today, when Hollywood stars wheel their little Frankenmonsters out for the press to ejaculate over.

Strange times. We don’t need the ATP to take on the role of achieving world peace in the players boudoirs. In my day, they knew their place, which was tennis. Course, this was all fields round here back then..

LOL...frankenmonsters made me laugh.

Being someone of leftie background and general orientation, I sort of split the difference between you and a "blue hair." I don't take issue with "trannies" and actually love diversity of lifestyle. I don't have an issue with adults doing whatever they want with their body, or dressing however they want. I'll treat them with kindness and respect, as I would any other person, and am happy to call them by whatever pronoun they want.

Where I draw the line is the insistence--at least from some activists--that the world and everyone in it has to completely change their worldview and understanding of the natural world, or else you're a Bad Person. I also think there are some specific concerns that I can't just automatically align with, even if you're supposed to if you're a good leftie, such as:

1) Childhood surgery; I'm a bit less clear on hormones. I personally wouldn't want my child to take life-altering hormones before they're fully mature and their brain is developed (say, 25ish), but I also differentiate them from "the chop." I'm also very suspicious of the degree to which the medical community gets in line, especially considering the fact that fully transitioning costs hundreds of thousands over the course of a lifetime, or that it is considered anything other than elective treatment.

2) Trans women in women's sports. To me this is just absurd, and best illustrated by South Park.

3) The unwillingness by the virtue signaling left to even entertain the idea that gender dysmorphia might be an issue better solved by therapy than physical alteration, and/or asking everyone around them to solve it for them. Meaning, I think we should at least be willing to entertain the possibility that a person's rejection of their own body is more of a problem--and may have societal issues that we need to face, such as social media impact, unrealistic body expectations, etc--than everyone else's inability to completely reconfigure themselves and their worldview to see them as something they're not and never will 100% be.

The bathrooms thing seems like a bit of a divide-and-conquer issue, one of many ways that the ruling class keeps the people squabbling, but I also understand and sympathize why some women have an issue with the idea of a penis in the bathroom with them.

 

[Moxie]

I can't help but wonder about this kind of stuff. What has domestic abuse got to do with the tennis tour?

It's already implied in the Code of Conduct. If someone is accused of or convicted of a criminal or civil offense, they can be deemed to be in violation of the code, and behaving in a way injurious to the reputation of the sport. This is not, technically, new.

From the rulebook: (Section VIII - "The CODE")

2) Conduct Contrary to the Integrity of the Game The favorable reputation of ATP, its tournaments and players is a valuable asset and creates tangible benefits for all ATP members. Accordingly, it is an obligation for ATP players and Related Persons, to refrain from engaging in conduct contrary to the integrity of the game of tennis.
a) Conduct contrary to the integrity of the game shall include, but not be limited to, publicized comments that unreasonably attack or disparage any person or group of people, a tournament, sponsor, player, official or ATP. Responsible expressions of legitimate disagreement with ATP policies are not prohibited. However, public comments that one of the stated persons above knows, or should reasonably know, will harm the reputation or financial best interests of a tournament, player, sponsor, official or ATP are expressly covered by this section.
b) A player, or related person, that has at any time behaved in a manner severely damaging to the reputation of the sport may be deemed by virtue of such behavior to have engaged in conduct contrary to the integrity of the Game of Tennis and be in violation of this Section.
c) A player, or related person, convicted of a violation of a criminal or civil law of any jurisdiction may be deemed by virtue of such conviction to have engaged in conduct contrary to the integrity of the Game of Tennis.
d) A player, or related person, charged with a violation of a criminal or civil law of any jurisdiction may be deemed by virtue of such charge to have engaged in conduct contrary to the integrity of the Game of Tennis and the ATP Executive Vice President, Rules & Competition may provisionally suspend such player, or related person, from further participation in ATP tournaments pending a final determination of the criminal or civil proceeding.
e) Violation of this section shall subject the player to a fine of up to $100,000 and/or suspension from play in ATP Tour or ATP Challenger Tour tournaments for a period of up to three (3) years. Violation of this Section by a Related Person may result in a maximum penalty of permanent revocation of accreditation and denial of access to all ATP Tour and ATP Challenger Tour Tournaments.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Well, Naomi Osaka might be the canary in that coal mine.

Again, not to diminish real mental health concerns - or to suggest that Osaka's were fake (I'll take her at her word). But I can tell you as someone who has worked with teens for the last 20 years, the overall direction is...worrisome. I think some of it is legit, and largely due to the long-term impact of cellphone addiction, social media, etc. Some of it also has to do with coming of age in this time - 2020, in particular,, and various other factors. But there's also a major element of the way "disability" and "mental illness" is identified with and leveraged. More and more kids have some kind of Official Label or designation; and quite a few kids have self-chosen labels and identifies that they (imo) solidify prematurely as some kind of permanent, non-changeable thing.

For example, I had one kid tell me that being trans is just as intrinsic as being gay. Meaning, you're born trans. I'm not saying that's impossible, but I can't agree, at least at this point, and think it is mostly nurture, not nature (I do think homosexuality is usually nature). Actually, quite a number of "LGB" activists differentiate themselves from. "T" and even complain that a lot of young people who are naturally "LGB" are now imprinted to think that this must eventually lead to "T."

Anyhow, I didn't openly disagree with them, though - partially because to do so could have gotten me fired. That sort of ties into what you're talking about, how quite understandable protections against abuse and/or support for legitimate challenges bleeds into self-assigned identifies and even faux mental issues, some of which could simply be resolved through, well, growing up.

May I say since Osaka has had a child she appears to be more approachable in the press, and actually laughs a lot and dosent take life that seriously and dosent 'harp' about mental illness, like before. I totally understand that 'mental illness' can be long term and have dire consequences for people of all ages, seen first hand myself working in emergency at the hospital where I worked.

 

[Kieran]

LOL...frankenmonsters made me laugh.

Being someone of leftie background and general orientation, I sort of split the difference between you and a "blue hair." I don't take issue with "trannies" and actually love diversity of lifestyle. I don't have an issue with adults doing whatever they want with their body, or dressing however they want. I'll treat them with kindness and respect, as I would any other person, and am happy to call them by whatever pronoun they want.

I have no issue with actual gender dysphoria people, I don’t believe anyone who simply says that they “identify” as something they plainly aren’t. I don’t fully get the pronoun thing, simply because I don’t have any occasion to use them, that might be offensive to the bearer of the badge. For instance, if you the Dude say your pronouns are She/They, I will still address “you” as you to your face and when you’re not there, I would say “he”. But it wouldn’t bother me out of politeness to use “she” if we were in a room with another and I was referring to you.

It would bother me if you insisted that I use “she”, though.

Where I draw the line is the insistence--at least from some activists--that the world and everyone in it has to completely change their worldview and understanding of the natural world, or else you're a Bad Person. I also think there are some specific concerns that I can't just automatically align with, even if you're supposed to if you're a good leftie, such as:

1) Childhood surgery; I'm a bit less clear on hormones. I personally wouldn't want my child to take life-altering hormones before they're fully mature and their brain is developed (say, 25ish), but I also differentiate them from "the chop." I'm also very suspicious of the degree to which the medical community gets in line, especially considering the fact that fully transitioning costs hundreds of thousands over the course of a lifetime, or that it is considered anything other than elective treatment.

2) Trans women in women's sports. To me this is just absurd, and best illustrated by South Park.

3) The unwillingness by the virtue signaling left to even entertain the idea that gender dysmorphia might be an issue better solved by therapy than physical alteration, and/or asking everyone around them to solve it for them. Meaning, I think we should at least be willing to entertain the possibility that a person's rejection of their own body is more of a problem--and may have societal issues that we need to face, such as social media impact, unrealistic body expectations, etc--than everyone else's inability to completely reconfigure themselves and their worldview to see them as something they're not and never will 100% be.

The bathrooms thing seems like a bit of a divide-and-conquer issue, one of many ways that the ruling class keeps the people squabbling, but I also understand and sympathize why some women have an issue with the idea of a penis in the bathroom with them.

Totally agree. A lot of bathrooms in cafes for instance are just the toilet both genders use, but blokes stripping off in the changing rooms in the gym and flashing their meat and two veg?

Nah!

 

[Kieran]

It's already implied in the Code of Conduct. If someone is accused of or convicted of a criminal or civil offense, they can be deemed to be in violation of the code, and behaving in a way injurious to the reputation of the sport. This is not, technically, new.

From the rulebook: (Section VIII - "The CODE")

2) Conduct Contrary to the Integrity of the Game The favorable reputation of ATP, its tournaments and players is a valuable asset and creates tangible benefits for all ATP members. Accordingly, it is an obligation for ATP players and Related Persons, to refrain from engaging in conduct contrary to the integrity of the game of tennis.
a) Conduct contrary to the integrity of the game shall include, but not be limited to, publicized comments that unreasonably attack or disparage any person or group of people, a tournament, sponsor, player, official or ATP. Responsible expressions of legitimate disagreement with ATP policies are not prohibited. However, public comments that one of the stated persons above knows, or should reasonably know, will harm the reputation or financial best interests of a tournament, player, sponsor, official or ATP are expressly covered by this section.
b) A player, or related person, that has at any time behaved in a manner severely damaging to the reputation of the sport may be deemed by virtue of such behavior to have engaged in conduct contrary to the integrity of the Game of Tennis and be in violation of this Section.
c) A player, or related person, convicted of a violation of a criminal or civil law of any jurisdiction may be deemed by virtue of such conviction to have engaged in conduct contrary to the integrity of the Game of Tennis.
d) A player, or related person, charged with a violation of a criminal or civil law of any jurisdiction may be deemed by virtue of such charge to have engaged in conduct contrary to the integrity of the Game of Tennis and the ATP Executive Vice President, Rules & Competition may provisionally suspend such player, or related person, from further participation in ATP tournaments pending a final determination of the criminal or civil proceeding.
e) Violation of this section shall subject the player to a fine of up to $100,000 and/or suspension from play in ATP Tour or ATP Challenger Tour tournaments for a period of up to three (3) years. Violation of this Section by a Related Person may result in a maximum penalty of permanent revocation of accreditation and denial of access to all ATP Tour and ATP Challenger Tour Tournaments.

See, this is a problem. It’s executive overreach. It’s a throwback to the horrible invention of “believe all women” by the far left. It’s injurious to reason and truth, and also to the individual who might be falsely accused. I mean, you can’t be considered to have “engaged in conduct contrary to the integrity of the Game of Tennis and the ATP” if you didn’t actually do what they accuse you of, right?

This is why Believe All Women was both stupid and wrong. Also it was wrong because it was totally dishonest: they chose only to believe women when it was politically expedient, but some women were excluded from such privilege of being believed, due to being the wrong ethnicity or colour..