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I think just the attempt to defend his gold medal will feel like closure for Novak. Kind of like Rafa competing at the Paris Olympics.

Even Roger tried to hold on long enough for an attempt at the Tokyo Olympics, but his body gave out just before at 2021 Wimbledon.

Barring injury/his body giving out on him, I really think Novak goes for it.
You put a lot of stock in tennis players prioritizing the Olympics. In fairness, Novak DID just say that defending his gold medal in LA in 2028 motivates him. However, this is the same guy who hinted at not playing another RG a few weeks ago, when he lost. So he runs hot and cold on these things.

2028 is a long way away for a guy who is 38. You say, "barring injury," which could happen. But I would add: Barring a slow decline in his game, barring sinking rankings, barring lack of results. Still, if he wins another Major, or continues to make SFs and Fs, and he can keep chipping away at the career titles record, why not? IMO, though, Novak will have to stay somewhere around where he is right now, in terms of rankings and results, to stay motivated. And, including healthy. Personally, I don't see him keeping that up for 3 more years.
 

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19 yo Mensik, highest ranked teenager in the world (#17) defeats former r/u Cam Norries 76(6) 16 61 to reach the 2nd round in London
Saved 2 SPs in the first set
Hit 20 aces.
 
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Wimbledon Update:
OUT: Nishikori
IN: B.Harris
Another Update:
OUT: Tabilo
IN: Cilic
 
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Boris Becker his book titled " Winning, Losing, Starting Again" available this September, is a reflection of one of the toughest experiences of his life, including time in prison and everything that came before and after.
 

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I know a lot of people around here don’t like Djokovic & IMO wish/hope he hangs it up, but as of now…

38 year old Novak has made finals of a Masters & the SF of a slam in the last 3 months, and I do think red clay is his weakest surface.

I think if he can adjust to the new “reality” that he won’t be the #1 player, dominant player and win multiple slams he could play a couple more years

Federer & Rafa’s bodies just plain gave out, Federer’s knees were spent & Rafa’s last comeback from injury never really got off the ground.

Novak can travel the circuit with a multimillion dollar team/entourage of trainers/coaches/‘conditioning/massage, etc personnel and as of now doesn’t have to have any major chronic physical ailment. The endorsements & appearance money can still pour in.

I know it’s a big IF, but….If he can still enjoy playing without the added pressure of having to win every tourney, he could hang Around; who are we to say he’s not got anymore motivation to play?
 

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I know a lot of people around here don’t like Djokovic & IMO wish/hope he hangs it up, but as of now…

38 year old Novak has made finals of a Masters & the SF of a slam in the last 3 months, and I do think red clay is his weakest surface.

I think if he can adjust to the new “reality” that he won’t be the #1 player, dominant player and win multiple slams he could play a couple more years

Federer & Rafa’s bodies just plain gave out, Federer’s knees were spent & Rafa’s last comeback from injury never really got off the ground.

Novak can travel the circuit with a multimillion dollar team/entourage of trainers/coaches/‘conditioning/massage, etc personnel and as of now doesn’t have to have any major chronic physical ailment. The endorsements & appearance money can still pour in.

I know it’s a big IF, but….If he can still enjoy playing without the added pressure of having to win every tourney, he could hang Around; who are we to say he’s not got anymore motivation to play?
Cmon man! That's what we do around here. I really don't give a flying fart if he chooses to stay on tour or not. I understand wanting another slam to break Court's record. The OG is a different story though. But hey, if he wants to try and hang w/ these young guns, he better be prepared when some days he just won't have it. And even if he does have it, will it be enough to defeat multiple top players in the same event.
 

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Cmon man! That's what we do around here. I really don't give a flying fart if he chooses to stay on tour or not. I understand wanting another slam to break Court's record. The OG is a different story though. But hey, if he wants to try and hang w/ these young guns, he better be prepared when some days he just won't have it. And even if he does have it, will it be enough to defeat multiple top players in the same event.
Isn’t that basically what I just said, that if he continues to play it’s a new reality?

Fine, if it’s debate, well then there’s more to playing than just getting a 25th Slam or another Olympics, maybe he goes on playing because he enjoys the sport.
 
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While it is tempting to be (irrationally) disappointed that Fonseca hasn't taken a next step up yet, it is important to remember that he is really in his first go-around on tour. What is impressive is that he's not getting blown out in any losses, except maybe to Jack Draper at Roland Garros. But Draper has ranked as high as #4 and in his prime. This is who Fonseca is now, at 18, imagine what he's going to be a year from now, two, three. In other words, once he does it all once, he can apply what he's learned, feel more comfortable, and take that next step forward.

He reminds me a bit of a top baseball hitting prospect in his first few months. He wows people with his ability, and beats many established pitchers, but then gets wake-up calls when he faces really good pitchers. But like that hitter, Fonseca is learning and he seems OK with that. I imagine that once he plays another few dozen matches (plus or minus), he's going to click and jump a level. While it could happen earlier, my prediction is that he has his "elite breakout"--which I define as either winning a Masters or reaching maybe a Slam SF--in the first half of next year.
 
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Well with Ben Shelton losing today at Queens in two tiebreakers to Rinderknetch it sets up the top 8 seeds at Wimbledon. Ben had an outside chance to overtake little Holger as the 8th seed.

The only thing left unresolved is whether Jack Draper can leapfrog from #6 to #4 seed at the Champhionships depending on how he and Fritz do at this warmup tournament. Novak, Musetti & Little Holger will be in the 5-8 seeds regardless.

Draper making it to the 4th seed is huge, as he wouldn’t have to face Alcaraz or Sinner until the semis.

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Actually Medvedev if he wins the tournament at Halle and say, Little Holger loses at the QF or earlier at Queens still has a shot at #8.
 
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While it is tempting to be (irrationally) disappointed that Fonseca hasn't taken a next step up yet, it is important to remember that he is really in his first go-around on tour. What is impressive is that he's not getting blown out in any losses, except maybe to Jack Draper at Roland Garros. But Draper has ranked as high as #4 and in his prime. This is who Fonseca is now, at 18, imagine what he's going to be a year from now, two, three. In other words, once he does it all once, he can apply what he's learned, feel more comfortable, and take that next step forward.

He reminds me a bit of a top baseball hitting prospect in his first few months. He wows people with his ability, and beats many established pitchers, but then gets wake-up calls when he faces really good pitchers. But like that hitter, Fonseca is learning and he seems OK with that. I imagine that once he plays another few dozen matches (plus or minus), he's going to click and jump a level. While it could happen earlier, my prediction is that he has his "elite breakout"--which I define as either winning a Masters or reaching maybe a Slam SF--in the first half of next year.
I kind of felt for Fonseca in his match today in Halle, he slipped over on the grass, giving the point to Cobolli in the 3rd set TB and the match 76(8) he is currently on court with Stefs brother Petros in a doubles match ( they lost in straight sets)
 
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Well with Ben Shelton losing today at Queens in two tiebreakers to Rinderknetch it sets up the top 8 seeds at Wimbledon. Ben had an outside chance to overtake little Holger as the 8th seed.

The only thing left unresolved is whether Jack Draper can leapfrog from #6 to #4 seed at the Champhionships depending on how he and Fritz do at this warmup tournament. Novak, Musetti & Little Holger will be in the 5-8 seeds regardless.

Draper making it to the 4th seed is huge, as he wouldn’t have to face Alcaraz or Sinner until the semis.

ETA:

Actually Medvedev if he wins the tournament at Halle and say, Little Holger loses at the QF or earlier at Queens still has a shot at #8.
Depends. At 4, he could still draw Djokovic in the quarters, which would be a nightmare draw. For Draper or Fritz, it might be an advantage to be #5 or #6, than be #4 and potentially have the Djokovic-Alcaraz-Sinner path to a title.
 
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Depends. At 4, he could still draw Djokovic in the quarters, which would be a nightmare draw. For Draper or Fritz, it might be an advantage to be #5 or #6, than be #4 and potentially have the Djokovic-Alcaraz-Sinner path to a title.
Being seeded fourth is crucial in any Grand Slam as it means you will face one of the 2 top seeds in the SF and the other one in the final.
 
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Being seeded fourth is crucial in any Grand Slam as it means you will face one of the 2 top seeds in the SF and the other one in the final.
In almost all cases, and if Djokovic was seeded 3rd, being seeded 4th would be a huge advantage. However, in this slam, Djokovic being seeded out of the Top 4 is a fly in the ointment. It's possible between Fritz and Draper, one could be seeded 4th and get Djokovic in their quarter, and the other player be seeded 5th or 6th and be in Zverev's quarter.

I think for a player like Fritz or Draper, it's more crucial to avoid Djokovic in the quarters than having a Top 4 seed. Neither of them are beating Djokovic/Alcaraz/Sinner back-to-back-to-back Top 4 seed or not.
 
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In almost all cases, and if Djokovic was seeded 3rd, being seeded 4th would be a huge advantage. However, in this slam, Djokovic being seeded out of the Top 4 is a fly in the ointment. It's possible between Fritz and Draper, one could be seeded 4th and get Djokovic in their quarter, and the other player be seeded 5th or 6th and be in Zverev's quarter.

I think for a player like Fritz or Draper, it's more crucial to avoid Djokovic in the quarters than having a Top 4 seed. Neither of them are beating Djokovic/Alcaraz/Sinner back-to-back-to-back Top 4 seed or not.

Typical; Fritz out after winning Boss event! Tough 1 for Fonseca; while Michelsen pulled it out! It's gonna be a free-4-all at Wimbledon! :slap::anxious-face-with-sweat:
 
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