2019 Men's US Open Final: Rafael Nadal vs. Daniil Medvedev

[rafanoy1992]

Five "Random" years. Are they random though? Or are these years where Nadal played well and won? You make it sound like a coin flip. Clearly, there are two aspects to this: One is about consistency and dominance (winning 5 straight in 5 years), the other is about consistency and longevity (winning 4 over a period of 9 years, two of which coming in your 30's) and if the latter was easy, then maybe Fed would have won a US Open in the past 11 years. I agree 5 straight is more impressive and it says a lot about Roger in his prime but let's not act like Nadal winning so many over such a long period of time is just some random achievement.

Actually this stat is a good microcosm of the slam count. It still doesn't "feel" to me like Nadal won just 1 slam fewer than Roger. It feels like Roger won more. However, the reason it feels that way is because he was so dominant and won so many in a condensed period of time (which is hugely impressive mind you), while Nadal won them over a longer period and was more consistent in terms of not going through dry spells as long as the one Roger went through. It's also a testament to Nadal turning into a great tennis player at an earlier age than Roger as he started winning in his teens.

Broken, here are the stats to support your correct assessments:

Number of years to win at least 1 slam title:

1. Nadal - 13 years
2. Federer - 11 years
3. Djokovic - 9 years

Number of years to win at least 2 titles:

1. Federer - 6 years
2. Nadal/Djokovic - 5 years

Number of years to win at least 3 titles:

1. Federer - 3 years
2. Djokovic - 2 years
3. Nadal - 1 year

As you could see above that while Nadal does not win slams in condensed time, he is the most consistent out of the Big Three in winning slam titles.

 

[Front242]

You seem to have forgotten Roger's first couple of rounds. But, yeah, shame they'll probably never play at the USO.

No I haven't forgotten his first couple of rounds at all because they're meaningless when his form improved so dramatically. Nadal has often been shit at Wimbledon first few rounds and then won it twice so it shouldn't be a surprise to you that early round poor form doesn't count.

 

[rafanoy1992]

Anyways, I would leave some stats after Nadal winning his 4th US Open title and 19th Slam title:

Most men's slam titles after the age of 30 (Open Era):

1. Nadal - 5 titles
2. Federer/Djokovic/Laver/Rosewall 4 titles
3. Connors/Agassi/Wawrinka 2 titles

Number of years to win at least 2 titles:

1. Federer - 6 years
2. Nadal/Djokovic - 5 years

Most US Open titles in the Open Era:

1. Connors/Sampras/Federer - 5 titles
2. McEnroe/Nadal - 4 titles
3. Lendl/Djokovic - 3 titles

One last thing: Most US Open titles in this decade (2010-2019):

1. Nadal - 4 titles
2. Djokovic - 3 titles
3. Murray/Cilic/Wawrinka - 1 title

 

[Front242]

Five "Random" years. Are they random though? Or are these years where Nadal played well and won? You make it sound like a coin flip. Clearly, there are two aspects to this: One is about consistency and dominance (winning 5 straight in 5 years), the other is about consistency and longevity (winning 4 over a period of 9 years, two of which coming in your 30's) and if the latter was easy, then maybe Fed would have won a US Open in the past 11 years. I agree 5 straight is more impressive and it says a lot about Roger in his prime but let's not act like Nadal winning so many over such a long period of time is just some random achievement.

Actually this stat is a good microcosm of the slam count. It still doesn't "feel" to me like Nadal won just 1 slam fewer than Roger. It feels like Roger won more. However, the reason it feels that way is because he was so dominant and won so many in a condensed period of time (which is hugely impressive mind you), while Nadal won them over a longer period and was more consistent in terms of not going through dry spells as long as the one Roger went through. It's also a testament to Nadal turning into a great tennis player at an earlier age than Roger as he started winning in his teens.

I think you misunderstood what I meant when I said random. I just meant they weren't consecutive and were quite a few years apart. Look, both are tremendous achievements and I was merely saying 5 consecutive is a much tougher thing to achieve and won't be beaten for a long time but if Nadal makes it to 5 US Opens that's clearly extremely good too. It's a hall of fame achievement at just one slam.

 

[Andy22]

Front that's not trolling it's just my opinion that Federer scared to play Nadal on clay of like 4 years, anyway like Anitpusher said your the biggest troll of them all, of course I'm happy Nadal the new par goat.[/QUOTE]

 

[Front242]

Front that's not trolling it's just my opinion that Federer scared to play Nadal on clay of like 4 years, anyway like Anitpusher said your the biggest troll of them all, of course I'm happy Nadal the new par goat.

[/QUOTE]

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one. As for me being a bigger troll than either you or AP, dream on. If Federer had played on clay he wouldn't have won Wimbledon 2017. He knows what he's doing a lot better than either of you. He skipped clay to prolong his career and give himself a better shot at Wimbledon and it worked and not because he's scared of Nadal.

No matter how many times you type dumb shit about him being scared of Nadal, it remains simply dumb shit. People don't suddenly believe it the more you type it funnily enough.

 

[Andy22]

.[/QUOTE]
Well let's forget the scared stuff for now, that matters is Nadal going to get Federer record at Australian open or Roland Garros next season, most likely Australian open but anyway Nadal gets past Federer record regardless. Plus if take Djokovic + Federer out of draw, every other player is scared of Nadal it shows then they play him, finally Nadal always played better at the Olympic Games than Djokovic+ Federer. That I'm basically saying is it's clear Nadal going to end with the most majors+ dominate federer

 

[the AntiPusher]

Nadal G2. All you need to do is mentioned the post about 5 weeks ago when that poster said Front"s post or his illogical replies were the dumbest EVER..Front still haven't responded but is quick to call everyone else retarded, stupid or other junivelle shit..Also I have provided Front an opportunity to answer on strategic tennis scenario, he refused..keep hiding little boy, your time on these boards are coming to end . I hope Miss Carol pipes in and kick your junk in the dirt(clay for Rafa's fans).

 

[Front242]

Nadal G2. All you need to do is mentioned the post about 5 weeks ago when that poster said Front"s post or his illogical replies were the dumbest EVER..Front still haven't responded but is quick to call everyone else retarded, stupid or other junivelle shit..Also I have provided Front an opportunity to answer on strategic tennis scenario, he refused..keep hiding little boy, your time on these boards are coming to end . I hope Miss Carol pipes in and kick your junk in the dirt(clay for Rafa's fans).

How is my time coming to an end fucktard? Wasn't gonna stoop so low as calling you names but you're not worth anything less. That poster as you stupidly refer to him as just put you in your place on the previous page, post #1491. Now do us all a favour and go kill yourself so we don't have to endure any more of this drivel.

Ps: Speaking of juvenile, do you even read your own fucking posts ? Way to go with post #1490 on the previous page and then you wonder why people here call you retarded or moron. Could have something to do with your posts maybe.

 

[the AntiPusher]

How is my time coming to an end fucktard? Wasn't gonna stoop so low as calling you names but you're not worth anything less. That poster as you stupidly refer to him as just put you in your place on the previous page, post #1491. Now do us all a favour and go kill yourself so we don't have to endure any more of this drivel.

Ps: Speaking of juvenile, do you even read your own fucking posts ? Way to go with post #1490 on the previous page and then you wonder why people here call you retarded or moron. Could have something to do with your posts maybe.

You don't get it. I responded to that bitch from up North plenty of times over the years..he/she doesn't mess with me.. anyone who wants to call me name can send me a PM, I will let them know when I will be at the next tennis tournament and will be more than happy to provide them a personal forum to address their concerns..


You on the other hand are afraid.. You are the weak, the lamb. There's no fear or waving in AP..You are trying to be a cheerleader by supporting someone who talks about you like a fleabag dog..Don't you have any honor..you are a follower not a leader..I told you 5 years ago you was a bloody Tosser. Now we know whom you toss for.

 

[Carol]

After to hear what this player said after to play so well and to lose he has all my admiration and from now he will be my second favorite player, what a great personality!

 

[Andy22]

Nadal should get to 10 slams off clay now, winning one a season with his Roland Garros titles.

 

[monfed]

dulltards claiming dull is better than Fed at USO. HAHA what a clueless posse.

 

[Fedal_fan]

Final Review of the US Open 2019 Predictions

There were plenty of surprises! However, like in French Open 2019 I managed to predict the winner correctly!

Medvedev, Wawrinka, Dimitrov, Schwartzman did much better than I expected.

Khachanov, Thiem and Bautista Agut were major disappointments.

Who do you think was the main disappointment of the US Open?

 

[brokenshoelace]

You don't get it. I responded to that bitch from up North plenty of times over the years..he/she doesn't mess with me.. anyone who wants to call me name can send me a PM, I will let them know when I will be at the next tennis tournament and will be more than happy to provide them a personal forum to address their concerns..

As for names such as moron , Sir or madam, whatever is your preference , I don't have a good job but a fantastic job..if I have spoken at technology conference attended by Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos..or I have given presentations to Dick Cheney in Houston at Halliburton, do you think I am concerned with name calling by the likes of you or that poster.

You on the other hand are afraid.. You are the weak, the lamb. There's no fear or waving in AP..You are trying to be a cheerleader by supporting someone who talks about you like a fleabag dog..Don't you have as any honor..you are a follower not a leader..I told you 5 years ago you was a bloody Tosser. Now we know whom you toss for.

Imagine being a grown man and cutting a pro wrestling style promo on a tennis message board in which you randomly talk about your job and career accomplishments to flex your muscles.

Front is biased, Cali is crazy, I'm a dick, NadalGOAT/Monfed are trolls... you on the other hand are just a legitimately awful poster who adds nothing. Your posts have zero tennis substance and you legitimately talk like a crazy embarrassing uncle at the dinner table.

So kindly, shut the fuck up already.

 

[Andy22]

Imagine being a grown man and cutting a pro wrestling style promo on a tennis message board in which you randomly talk about your job and career accomplishments to flex your muscles.

Front is biased, Cali is crazy, I'm a dick, NadalGOAT/Monfed are trolls... you on the other hand are just a legitimately awful poster who adds nothing. Your posts have zero tennis substance and you legitimately talk like a crazy embarrassing uncle at the dinner table.

So kindly, shut the fuck up already.

Sorry to tell bro but you front+ you are also big trolls, Need to learn to keep it about tennis, not the poster, basically you need home training. the guy a talking about is a really good poster, and a nice guy just because he stands for himself + has different options does make someone in your words a dumb ass? also copying moxie trying to like a superior Nadal fan just makes you look like Double standard dickhead.:cuckoo:

 

[Carol]

Sorry to tell bro but you front+ you are also big trolls, Need to learn to keep it about tennis, not the poster, basically you need home training. the guy a talking about is a really good poster, and a nice guy just because he stands for himself + has different options does make someone in your words a dumb ass? also copying moxie trying to like a superior Nadal fan just makes you look like Double standard dickhead.:cuckoo:

Well said!!!!

 

[Andy22]

Well said!!!!

Yea thanks you clearly a good poster as well

 

[Carol]

Yea thanks you clearly a good poster as well

My problem is that I can't stand the haters and the ones who think that know more than everyone else, it's boring and repetitive

 

[Carol]

dulltards claiming dull is better than Fed at USO. HAHA what a clueless posse.

Obviously it's true, and you fedtard are talking about clueless? what a piece of ****