US Politics Thread

[Moxie]

good questions...

I'm sure you understand the difference between people killed by random violence, and people killed by cops. This woman doesn't need to call out BLM, she needs to call out the Trump administration which likes to highlight illegal immigrants preying on white people. She's confusing issues, and missing who she really needs to blame, if this woman's death is being ignored.

 

[Fiero425]

Rather more importantly, the head of FEMA doesn't seem to be aware that there is a hurricane season, which began 4 days ago, and lasts until the end of November. Spokesperson for the WH is playing it off as a joke. But that's the same excuse they use for every gaffe Trump makes, and every member of his cabinet makes. And none of these "jokes" are even vaguely funny. Someone tell these people they're bureaucrats, not stand-up comedians, and they're responsible for people's lives.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fema-staff-confused-after-head-said-he-was-unaware-us-hurricane-season-sources-2025-06-02/

Returning the narrow-minded commentary of the right, "at least the true need is in Red States" where they asked for this kind of leadership!

 

[Federberg]

I'm sure you understand the difference between people killed by random violence, and people killed by cops. This woman doesn't need to call out BLM, she needs to call out the Trump administration which likes to highlight illegal immigrants preying on white people. She's confusing issues, and missing who she really needs to blame, if this woman's death is being ignored.

you completely missed her point, but that doesn't surprise me, and I don't mean it in a defamatory way. Her focus is entirely on the African American community and how they have allowed their issues to be politicised. Where is the greatest harm, the highest violence? It's unquestionably the violence within the community. Need I mention Chicago? Why does an organisation which purports to support black lives do very little with that? Because the politics is easier, more controversial, more... lucrative. But completely ineffective for the community it claims to support. That's just the simple truth.

PS, Smart phones have done more to curtail police malfeasance (against ALL races) than any progressive groups..

 

[Moxie]

you completely missed her point, but that doesn't surprise me, and I don't mean it in a defamatory way. Her focus is entirely on the African American community and how they have allowed their issues to be politicised. Where is the greatest harm, the highest violence? It's unquestionably the violence within the community. Need I mention Chicago? Why does an organisation which purports to support black lives do very little with that? Because the politics is easier, more controversial, more... lucrative. But completely ineffective for the community it claims to support. That's just the simple truth.

PS, Smart phones have done more to curtail police malfeasance (against ALL races) than any progressive groups..

That isn't what she said, but what you read in. She made it very much about illegal aliens killing this woman, though, which is politicizing in another way, in this country. I do appreciate that she said "where is her hashtag' because black woman, in particular, have always died too anonymously in this country. A white suburban mother would likely have made more news. If a white suburban mother had been murdered by illegal aliens, Trump wouldn't stop talking about it. I don't see why the problem would be only within the community. It's not just BLM and NAACP that should be called out.

 

[Moxie]

Returning the narrow-minded commentary of the right, "at least the true need is in Red States" where they asked for this kind of leadership!

Likewise, the people who will be most adversely affected by cuts to Medicaid come from red states. And what do they get, when they suggest that people will die, due to these drastic cuts? Jodi Ernst, Republican Sen. from Iowa, tells her people in a town hall: "Well, we're all going to die."

Compassionate conservatism went the way of the dinosaurs years ago. Same with all of the teachings of Jesus, in right-wing Christian political thought.

 

[Federberg]

I am so here for this…

 

[Moxie]

I am so here for this…

You knew they'd break up, and when they did, it would get ugly and childish. Not sure what Musk thinks he can gain by this, though. I don't think there's any salvaging the brand.

 

[Federberg]

Yup. Elon himself is weighing on his corporate brand. I wonder if his fight with Trump will do anything to assuage the hostility of Dems or non-Americans at this point...

 

[Moxie]

Yup. Elon himself is weighing on his corporate brand. I wonder if his fight with Trump will do anything to assuage the hostility of Dems or non-Americans at this point...

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No, I'm sure he lost all of those people, with his erstwhile enthusiasm for Trump, and now, whatever he might have picked up on the other side of the spectrum will now turn against him. Basically everyone can see him for the unstable freak that he is.

 

[Federberg]

No, I'm sure he lost all of those people, with his erstwhile enthusiasm for Trump, and now, whatever he might have picked up on the other side of the spectrum will now turn against him. Basically everyone can see him for the unstable freak that he is.

I don't disagree. Just speculating on best case scenarios for him. I'm not optimistic

 

[Fiero425]

No, I'm sure he lost all of those people, with his erstwhile enthusiasm for Trump, and now, whatever he might have picked up on the other side of the spectrum will now turn against him. Basically everyone can see him for the unstable freak that he is.

Elon's as doomed as anyone who's backed Trump; to wander the desert as an outcast for all time IMB! He's a special kind of idiot who alienated his best customers, but getting what he wanted by having the ear of Trump! What good has it done him? His company is literally "hanging on" trying to weather the storm of this bad press!

 

[Moxie]

No, I'm sure he lost all of those people, with his erstwhile enthusiasm for Trump, and now, whatever he might have picked up on the other side of the spectrum will now turn against him. Basically everyone can see him for the unstable freak that he is.

I wonder if the board will kick him out soon. And Trump can make good on coming after him. Those drugs allegations are an issue for him with government contracts.

 

[Federberg]

I wonder if the board will kick him out soon. And Trump can make good on coming after him. Those drugs allegations are an issue for him with government contracts.

my finance friends and I have been talking about since December. The drug thing is a dangerous spin on it.

 

[Kieran]

No one is surprised

Ever feel yourself nodding your head without meaning to?

 

[Kieran]

Compassionate conservatism went the way of the dinosaurs years ago. Same with all of the teachings of Jesus, in right-wing Christian political thought.

Good Lord, is there anyone left for Jesus in America, so?

 

[Moxie]

Trump's decision to take over the California National Guard and use them, against the will of the governor and the mayor of LA, is an overreach, and an overreaction. I frankly find it kind of frightening.

 

[Fiero425]

Trump's decision to take over the California National Guard and use them, against the will of the governor and the mayor of LA, is an overreach, and an overreaction. I frankly find it kind of frightening.

IDK why you're surprised! It's just another example of the hypocrisy of the Republican party! They've been fighting "tooth & nail" for 50 years trying to get abortion limited or abolished saying each state should make their own choices concerning legislation! Of course that gets tossed out the window when it contradicts things! I wonder when the sane part of the country wakes up and says "enough!" We need to punish these people at the polls w/ their tenuous hold on the Presidency & Congress! Trump might outdo all others from the past, present, & future when he's ultimately being "IMPEACHED" for a 3rd time!

 

[Federberg]

Trump's decision to take over the California National Guard and use them, against the will of the governor and the mayor of LA, is an overreach, and an overreaction. I frankly find it kind of frightening.

don't fall for the banana in the tailpipe. This is designed to distract from tariffs and his big beautiful bill not passing. Dems should stop the protesting and handle this calmly thru the courts

 

[Moxie]

don't fall for the banana in the tailpipe. This is designed to distract from tariffs and his big beautiful bill not passing. Dems should stop the protesting and handle this calmly thru the courts

People can walk and chew gum at the same time. Don't blame protesters for authoritarian behavior. And don't make light of this. It's another outrageously undemocratic action by Trump.

 

[Moxie]

PS: You know what else it is? it's a waste of money. Where's the fiscal responsibility? Did anyone ask DOGE if it was ok? The LAPD is still doing all the work, while the National Guard is sort of guarding federal buildings. And now he's sending in the Marines. What are THEY going to do?

It's an abuse of power, it risks enflaming a situation that simply isn't that bad, and he's wasting money, just like with that military parade he's throwing himself.