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Literally grew up with Terrence Stamp , 60+ year career , what an actor…


I saw "Priscilla" yrs. ago, but never understood why Stamp had a permanent scowl etched across his face the entire movie! Enjoyed the ending! :good:
 

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Just read Rick Davies, of 70's band Supertramp has passed.

Davies, a keyboardist and one of the group’s primary vocalists, wrote such classic rock songs as “Bloody Well Right” and “Goodbye Stranger,” while singing lead on both. The latter was one of three top 10 singles from Supertramp’s Breakfast in America, which was 1979’s top-selling album in the U.S. It reached #1 on the Billboard chart, remaining there for six weeks that spring.
It earned a Grammy Award nomination for Album of the Year, losing to Billy Joel’s 52nd Street.
He was 81.

R.I.P.

 

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I been reading on whether Roger Hodgson has buried the hatchet with the late Rick Davies and the rest of his band. I don't know about Rick, but Roger lost a lawsuit last month with the rest of his band and ordered to re-instate songwriting royalties (he stopped in 2018).

Supertramp singer must 'Give a Little Bit' to ex-bandmates, US court rules​

How did Hodgson get away with blocking royalties? He didn’t write all the songs, did he?
 
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How did Hodgson get away with blocking royalties? He didn’t write all the songs, did he?

Very good question.

I only have a copy of Breakfast in America album (all written by Davis and Hodgson) so can't say. I'll put the question over on the Steve Hoffman forum now.


 
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Roger Hodgson Pays Tribute to Rick Davies: “Before he left us, we made peace” -​


 
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UPDATE:

Finally got a response to the question by bloodisthin:

In a nutshell: by 1977, Hodgson & Davies were rather well to-do from the royalties of Supertramp's songs (which they were credited as sole writers of), while the other three non-writers found themselves hurting financially despite having two huge-selling albums under their belt (and counting).

In response to their grievances, the 'Tramp's manager Dave Margerson negotiated a publishing agreement that granted Thomson/Helliwell/Siebenberg a share of all songwriting royalties from Hodgson/Davies compositions. These royalty payments were reportedly over $100,000 a year, and continued from 1977 right up until 2018 when Hodgson, via his publishing company, ceased making payments.

In 2021 the three ex-members sued Hodgson/Davies for breach of contract.

The three settled their dispute with Rick Davies in 2023 and dropped him as a defendant.

In 2024 a California federal jury sided with Hodgson, ruling that he could terminate the agreement after a "reasonable time", meaning he was within his rights to stop payments in 2018.

Last month on 20 August, the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals overturned that decision, holding that the contract's implicit duration extends for as long as those songs keep generating income. Essentially, Hodgson may now be required to reinstate those royalty payments to Thomson/Helliwell/Siebenberg until those songs either stop generating revenue, or enter the public domain.

That's the thumbnail sketch of what happened. If you want a deeper dive, here's a little light reading in PDF form: https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/mypmxxxylvr/SUPERTRAMP COPYRIGHT LAWSUIT 9thcir.pdf
 

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UPDATE:

Finally got a response to the question by bloodisthin:
Thanks Vince!

It seems unfair on Hodgson, since he cowrote the songs. The guys who didn’t write the songs shouldn’t be entitled to get paid writers royalties. They toured and probably made a fortune performing…
 

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Robert Redford has died at 89. There are several of his films I could watch over and over again. Like All The President's Men and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
May he R.I.P. When I think of him, the first film I think of is the Horse whisperer. I could watch that over & over again. (I know you're probably not surprised by that & could predict that coming from me.)
 

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Very good director too. Ordinary People, Quiz Show, he made some strong films..
He was a very good director. What should also be mentioned was his contribution to independent film. The Sundance Film Festival started the careers of a lot of great filmmakers, and got distribution for lots of good and great indie films. Lesser known is that the Sundance Institute held workshops throughout the year, to which narrative and documentary filmmakers got grants to spend time developing scripts and projects. His contribution to independent film (and documentary) should not be underestimated.
 

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R.I.P Robert Redford
August 18, 1936September 16, 2025

I did not realize he was 89 years age. Always he looked youthful.

What an awesome career he's had a stage and screen, and film producer and director

One of the last legends of Hollywood's 60's golden age (an era I like and collect) , but more importantly, a thoroughly kind, giving, wonderful human being.

My favorites are:

The Property is Condemned (obscure 1966 film co-starred with Natalie Wood)
Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid
The Sting
All The President's Men
Out of Africa
The Natural
 

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R.I.P Robert Redford
August 18, 1936September 16, 2025

I did not realize he was 89 years age. Always he looked youthful.

What an awesome career he's had a stage and screen, and film producer and director

One of the last legends of Hollywood's 60's golden age (an era I like and collect) , but more importantly, a thoroughly kind, giving, wonderful human being.

My favorites are:

The Property is Condemned (obscure 1966 film co-starred with Natalie Wood)
Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid
The Sting
All The President's Men
Out of Africa
The Natural
"This Property is Condemned" is an interesting shout out. I also liked that film. He and Natalie Wood were also paired in "Inside Daisy Clover," another interesting but rather obscure film of that time. She played a Judy Garland type child star, and he was her studio match-made husband who was actually gay, though they soft-pedaled it, a bit.

In terms of him seeming eternally young...allow me a small personal anecdote: a friend of mine had a big job at the Sundance Institute. Eventually, before she got it, she had an interview with "Bob." She said he seemed like an older guy, very nice. But, at the end of the interview, he stood up, his long legs jeans-clad, put on his aviators, and she said, "Suddenly, I was in the presence of a movie star."
 

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Having problems logging on lately but Brubaker (1980) and the The last castle (2001) were very good too in addition to the ones listed already. Was gonna mention The Sting before it was listed here but couldn't login. Great film.
 
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Fun fact btw, I typed that specially with the years those two were made, 'cos if I'd typed Brubaker and The last castle, it sounded like a spin off of Indiana Jones :face-with-tears-of-joy:
 
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