calitennis127 said:
1972Murat said:
Cali always misses the point when this subject comes up. Sure black on black crime is an issue, a big one, BUT:
- When black on black crime happens, somebody always goes to jail.
- There is no one in the position of authority in a black on black crime where the society trusts to act just and right. They are two regular people.
Well then you are missing the point, murat. The slogan "Black Lives Matter" makes it sound like there is some wide-scale semi-genocide going on against black people - all because of a total of 5 cases: Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Eric Garner, the guy in Madison, and now Walter Scott in South Carolina. That is 5 people, which in the city of Chicago is just one weekend worth of coffins for shooting victims.
The whole issue here - and the reason why I bring up black-on-black crime - is the matter of SCALE. The ratio of incidents where a black person shoots another black person to incidents where white cops shoot a black person is literally near 100:1. It is frankly hilarious to see guilt-ridden modern white people go around saying "black lives matter" as a reference to white police brutality when we are talking about a miniscule number of isolated incidents.
Cali, I wish you bothered to read what I write. The reason you are missing the point is because you are comparing unrelated events. It does not matter what the ratio of black on black crime to crimes committed by persons in the position of authority against regular people. If this was a court case, there would be only one word the judge would say : Irrelevant. It is like saying way more people die in car accidents than police crime. Irrelevant. Got nothing to do with the subject at hand. Feel free to open a thread to discuss black on black crime. And when you do, I am sure you would be upset if someone came and said "Yeah, but cancer kills more people..." Again , IRRELEVANT.
And you are , as usual, misrepresenting my point. The title of this thread might be black lives matter, but that is not even my position. Have you, at any point in this thread, seen me blame WHITE cops killing BLACK people in general? You will not. I said "in particular" , only about the recent cases, and rightfully so.
My position is that the people in the position of authority, white, black or purple, has been abusing that authority for ages, against people that are white, black or purple and we are only finding about this now for sure, because people are recording the events or there are security cameras everywhere. Obviously those security cameras do not mean much because their findings can be altered, hidden etc...not like a regular person recording events like the last incidence.
Here is what i said at my first post:
"Of course , right now the conversation is white cops killing black men, and rightfully so, but I have a strong suspicion that many a crooked cop got away with killing all kinds of people from all kinds of races before the cell phone cameras were everywhere..."
"Right now" is the key phrase.
...and my next post that you quoted:
"In this case we are looking at a cop, who has authority and legal right to use power, who shoots a person from behind, then tries to plant a taser near his dying body so that he can have a case ."
Do you see anywhere any mention of color?
Again, my position is, people in the position of authority is going to find it harder and harder to get away with stuff in today's technology. And if we see so many incidences in such short period of time, it truly scares me what must have happened in the past. Obviously not every cop is crooked. But we are not supposed to do anything about the ones that are?