2025 ATP General News

[MargaretMcAleer]

Yeah, I know. I was just trying to be funny.

No worries

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Andre Agassi is to work with Holger Rune for a 3 day period ahead of the Citi DC Open.Thursday was his first day, he'll be in the house till Saturday. It's not a " add a super-coach" type of arrangement.Just the 3 days, see if there's chemistry, see if he can bring fresh eyes and his experience to the project.And go from there
( source open court).

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

A lot of late withdrawals in Citi DC tournament on the mens side , which isnt entirely shocking, still.........
Tommy Paul
Jakub Mensik
Tomas Machac
Seb Korda
Nick K
Note:
Nick K and Gael Monfils are still scheduled to play doubles
Updated news regarding Monfils and Nick K playing doubles seeing Nick withdrew from singles
Monfils said he dosent know if Nick and him are still playing doubles?

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Just read that Andre Agassi will guide Rune remotely after their 3 day training stint as Citi DC Washington tournament

 

[Kieran]

Andre Agassi is to work with Holger Rune for a 3 day period ahead of the Citi DC Open.Thursday was his first day, he'll be in the house till Saturday. It's not a " add a super-coach" type of arrangement.Just the 3 days, see if there's chemistry, see if he can bring fresh eyes and his experience to the project.And go from there
( source open court).

This is not going to work. Agassi has been prominent at both the French and Wimbledon and obviously he has a renewed taste for the sport, but he's not the man that Holger needs. In fact, I'd say this is a sign of how out of touch Holger is becoming...

 

[Federberg]

This is not going to work. Agassi has been prominent at both the French and Wimbledon and obviously he has a renewed taste for the sport, but he's not the man that Holger needs. In fact, I'd say this is a sign of how out of touch Holger is becoming...

I'm intrigued. What's your reasoning? I don't have an opinion, just trying to understand

 

[Kieran]

I'm intrigued. What's your reasoning? I don't have an opinion, just trying to understand

When you look back on it, there’s very few great players have become great coaches. There’s something about great players that they learn by instinct as much as technical drills. They do the time in the drills, but what they achieved they achieved through having that thing that can’t be taught.

I also think that Agassi has been long gone from the sport, and though of course he’s knowledgable, he’s always been an esoteric sort of fella, not concrete and i wonder can he transfer knowledge like say Annacone or Cahill can.

Now Lendl is an exception but Lendl became great through drills. He wasn’t the most natural, but he was as hard a worker as ever was invented.

I hope Holger succeeds because he’s completely lost his fire in the last few years. He was a torment, a pest, type of player could annoy his opponent. He needs to drop the anonymity, and I hope he does but I’m not sure Agassi is the way?

 

[PhiEaglesfan712]

Luciano Darderi defeats Jasper De Jong 6-4, 3-6, 6-3 to win at Bastad. The win gives Darderi his 2nd title this season, and 3rd career title overall. The Italian domination of men's tennis continues.

Also, Sinner, Draper and Djokovic have withdrawn from Toronto.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Breaking News,
Sinner Draper, Djokovic have all withdrawn from Toronto
Sinner said he still needs time to recover from Wimbledon and will play Cinncy before the USO
Novak probably has the leg issue he sustained at Wimbledon, though he hasnt played Toronto for some time
Draper he has a injury to his left arm and wont play Cinncy as well, meaning he will only play the USO

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

This is not going to work. Agassi has been prominent at both the French and Wimbledon and obviously he has a renewed taste for the sport, but he's not the man that Holger needs. In fact, I'd say this is a sign of how out of touch Holger is becoming...

I was a bit surprised that Holger and his team reached out to Agassi, also he apparently going to moniter him remotely? I dont know if that will be any assistance for Holger moving forward, he is a mess at the moment, lost in the first round at Wimbledon, to me he needs another coach with him on the tour not from a distance

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

They are withdrawing like 'flies' from Toronto
Carlos Alcaraz has also withdrawn, he joins Sinner, Djokovic and Draper
As a reminder this year both Toronto and Cinncy have evolved to the new 12 day Masters 1000 format
Between Toronto and Cinncy you can potientially play 12 matches in 20 days?
Scheduling is a priority
I can understand barring injury eg Jack Draper, why Alcaraz, Sinner, Novak do not want to play 2 Masters tournaments in a row with this new format that has been introduced. Players dislike it for starters.

 

[PhiEaglesfan712]

I always knew that Cincinnati was the better Masters tournament. Pretty much every top player dropping out of Toronto vindicates my opinion. Toronto was fine as a one-week tournament. It didn't need to become a 2-week tournament.

Cincinnati is getting upgrades, which justifies its expanding to 2 weeks.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I always knew that Cincinnati was the better Masters tournament. Pretty much every top player dropping out of Toronto vindicates my opinion. Toronto was fine as a one-week tournament. It didn't need to become a 2-week tournament.

Cincinnati is getting upgrades, which justifies its expanding to 2 weeks.

Both tournaments are a 12 day format
The reason why players have withdrawn from Toronto for starters between Toronto and Cinncy you can potientially play 12 matches in 20 days?
It is about scheduling for starters, too much of a squeeze between Toronto and Cinncy, nothing to do about Cinncy justifying its up grades
Players have to prioritize their scheduling, they have long been critical of these Masters 1000 tournaments becoming like a ' mini GS" tournament directors think they can get more bums on seats, it is all about the dollar regardless of how the players feel.
All Masters 1000 tournaments should revert back to 7 days in my opinion. MC still has the 7 day format

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Toronto update:
OUT: Sinner, Alcaraz, Draper ( left arm injury, also out of Cinncy) Djokovic
IN: Carbelles Baena, Ofner, Safiulin, Kovacevic
Aussie Jordan Thompson has also now withdrawn from Toronto,, he had to retire in his match at Wimbledon, due to a leg injury,

 

[Moxie]

When you look back on it, there’s very few great players have become great coaches. There’s something about great players that they learn by instinct as much as technical drills. They do the time in the drills, but what they achieved they achieved through having that thing that can’t be taught.

I also think that Agassi has been long gone from the sport, and though of course he’s knowledgable, he’s always been an esoteric sort of fella, not concrete and i wonder can he transfer knowledge like say Annacone or Cahill can.

Now Lendl is an exception but Lendl became great through drills. He wasn’t the most natural, but he was as hard a worker as ever was invented.

I hope Holger succeeds because he’s completely lost his fire in the last few years. He was a torment, a pest, type of player could annoy his opponent. He needs to drop the anonymity, and I hope he does but I’m not sure Agassi is the way?

I'm going to suggest a reason that Agassi might help Holger: Agassi had a really demanding, pushy father, and I think Holger has a very type-A mother. (She was a ballerina with the Royal Danish Ballet, and I hate to truck in stereotypes, but I spent a lot of years in ballet, and those who succeed tend to be very driven.) Perhaps Andre can help Holger find a way to do it, and enjoy it, for himself, and not for his parent's ambition. Sorry for the armchair psychoanalyzing, but I have long suspected Rune's problem is his mother. Safin's was.

 

[Moxie]

Both tournaments are a 12 day format
The reason why players have withdrawn from Toronto for starters between Toronto and Cinncy you can potientially play 12 matches in 20 days?
It is about scheduling for starters, too much of a squeeze between Toronto and Cinncy, nothing to do about Cinncy justifying its up grades
Players have to prioritize their scheduling, they have long been critical of these Masters 1000 tournaments becoming like a ' mini GS" tournament directors think they can get more bums on seats, it is all about the dollar regardless of how the players feel.
All Masters 1000 tournaments should revert back to 7 days in my opinion. MC still has the 7 day format

I'm with you. I hope all these withdrawals make the tournaments understand that the players don't like the format. Nor do we, the fans.

 

[kskate2]

The problem w/ only choosing Cinci: what happens if you go out early? Now you have no prep for USO and go in cold, unprepared and rusty.

 

[kskate2]

When you look back on it, there’s very few great players have become great coaches. There’s something about great players that they learn by instinct as much as technical drills. They do the time in the drills, but what they achieved they achieved through having that thing that can’t be taught.

I also think that Agassi has been long gone from the sport, and though of course he’s knowledgable, he’s always been an esoteric sort of fella, not concrete and i wonder can he transfer knowledge like say Annacone or Cahill can.

Now Lendl is an exception but Lendl became great through drills. He wasn’t the most natural, but he was as hard a worker as ever was invented.

I hope Holger succeeds because he’s completely lost his fire in the last few years. He was a torment, a pest, type of player could annoy his opponent. He needs to drop the anonymity, and I hope he does but I’m not sure Agassi is the way?

Out of curiosity. Who would you suggest? He's already had some really good voices in his box. In your opinion, who's left that could reach him?

 

[Fiero425]

The problem w/ only choosing Cinci: what happens if you go out early? Now you have no prep for USO and go in cold, unprepared and rusty.

If you're talking about Novak, Draper, & Sinner WD from Canada, I was hoping Djokovic'd treat it like The Sunshine Double! After going out early in IW, Novak was able to WC into Miami! Skipping Toronto, & going out early in Cincy, I doubt he'll add a smaller 250 to get in some practice B4 USO!

 

[Kieran]

Out of curiosity. Who would you suggest? He's already had some really good voices in his box. In your opinion, who's left that could reach him?

I don’t know who he can get, to be honest. Who would you suggest?