2014 Roger's Cup Toronto

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El Dude said:
A forehand seems to be much easier to fix than, say, movement. Roger's movement seems to be good, belying his age - certainly having taken less of a hit than his forehand. I wonder why he can't reclaim his forehand.

I suppose my answer to my own question is that perhaps his movement HAS slowed a bit, which has made it harder for him to get around the ball to really kill it with the forehand. Just a fraction of a second lower and, voila, a more erratic and weaker forehand. Just a theory, though.

Combination of things, some of which were on purpose. He voluntarily took pace of his fh and put a bit more spin on it, to try to beat Rafa at the french back in 2007. The fh was never quite the same after the AO 2007, especially after Higueras started tweaking it.

In 2008 he lost a half step (mono, lack of practise etc) and that was when he started getting the shanks. He was able to adjust to his new movement and get some control over the shanks but he never really went back to the way he used to hit the ball. I think he probably lost another half step somewhere between 2010 and 2013, and that definitely didn't help.

I mean its hard to hit a perfect inside out at full blast unless you really are comfortably in position, but i'd say its more than that. Federer simply chooses not to hit the ball as hard as he can imo.

There is another factor too, which is probably that balls are a little heavier than they were in the old days. I suspect that probably has a psychological effect, and forces the player to perhaps not hit as hard or as flat, since there is less chance of hitting a pure winner.
 

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Very disappointed by both Nole and Stan. Now hope Murray'll clinch the title it's a good opportunity for him
 

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I like the way Federer competed last night. It was a very good win considering Cilic was playing well.

As far as the Nole match, I didn't get to watch it. Was it a matter of Novak playing poorly? It's rare that you see him lose with that kind of scoreline on a hard court (or on any court for that matter.)
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
Friday's OOP in plain text.

11:00 AM Andy Murray vs. Jo Tsonga
Followed by Anderson vs. Grigor

07:00 PM Milos vs. Deliciano
Followed by Federer vs. Ferrer.

Correction, the first match starts at 1:00 PM, the evening schedule was correct
 

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They scheduled one of the doubles matches at 11, but the first quarterfinal between Andy and JWT won't start before 1pm local time.
 

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Tsonga got the first BP of the match, wasted a forehand wide.

Iona, that tape looks like precaution more than anything. I hope as well he is OK. He looks OK so far.
 

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I have not seen JWY play like this in a while. Positive, big serve, big forehand...he is enjoying it.
 

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Couple of lame shots give Murray his first BP, saved with an ace from JWT
 

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Tsonga has the first mini-break in the TB. Tsonga leads 4-3, serving two.
 

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It is long time I saw a fierce Tsonga like this. Both his serve and forehand are now
at ferocious levels.
 

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TennisFanatic7 said:
Andy could have done better on some key points there, can't miss opportunities when Tsonga is serving like he is.

Hope for Jo to have just one sloppier service game...

Well, here it is, as sloppy as it will get. Murray with 2 BPs.
 

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...and Murray makes no mistakes, gets the break with a beautiful DTL forehand pass. He is up 3-1.
 

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Could see Murray winning the next 2 sets a mile off even with Tsonga winning set 1. He probably will.
 

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...and he breaks back. Horrible game from Andy after getting a break.