US Politics Thread

[Federberg]

Nah, nothing fake about it.

It's on their own website:

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This is exactly the sort of stuff that will continue to present hurdles for Democrats. They need to ditch this ideology and get back to basic common sense

 

[Kieran]

Did you ever explain to me what T&C's are? Or who the "ligitious activist" is that you're talking about?

Yes, the activist and their legal activities are prominently fricking mentioned in the video.

I don't know what to say to you again about the ridiculous fears that you put forth about "blokes walking around butt naked in front of women in gym changing rooms." That doesn't happen.

It unfortunately does, - brought to us by your side of the aisle.



Now, used to be that in the mad lefties game of snakes & ladders when it came to identity poltics that a black person was the ultimate winner every time, in the victimology round. A black LESBIAN woman? You'd think she's a six-inch putt for the win, but no, a white bloke gets the W once he pretends he's a female. So in that video you see a brave black woman confronting a white man with a history of violence towards his female partner - and HE'S the victim and SHE'S the villain.

You rightly say that men are the aggressors, in terms of sexual assault, generally. They don't need to put on a dress to assault women. Or even to enter a changing room or a bathroom to assault women. Most assaults on women don't happen in bathrooms or changing rooms, and certainly not perpetrated by trans women. If your concern is for the safety of women, I suggest you get your priorities straight. And if you had any empathy, you'd know that trans women are disproportionately the victims of assault, and at the hands of men. FFS.

My priorities are perfectly straight: don't let men into women's changing areas. Everything you said in that paragraph underlines why I'm right. Men are more prone to violence, even men who identify as women.

A feminist would know that there's a reason why a "trans-woman" has a qualifier to indicate that they are not actually a real woman. Women don't need the qualifying term "trans" to tell us that they're women.

Men need that, in order to tell us that they're actually men who for whatever reason - some even pitiful and real - they think they're a woman.

We should be protecting actual women from these men, but unfortunately, as you can see in this video that when that woman complained, your side of politics has been hacked by disgraceful politics that masquerades as empathy and compassion, and whatever, and she was humiliated again.

It's pathetic that a woman - and a lesbian at that - should be put through this trial by fire with malicious virtue-signalling trolls in control.

Where are the feminists during all this? facing blowbacks from leftists who have rebranded classic feminists with a derogatory nickname.

 

[Federberg]

Now, used to be that in the mad lefties game of snakes & ladders when it came to identity poltics that a black person was the ultimate winner every time, in the victimology section. A black LESBIAN woman? You'd think she's a six-inch putt for the win, but no, a white bloke gets the W once he pretends he's a female. So in that video you see a brave black woman confronting a white man with a history of violence towards his female partner - and HE'S the victim and she's the villain.

lol! You absolutely nail it here. They finally played themselves. Can't believe it's even a discussion

 

[Kieran]

This is exactly the sort of stuff that will continue to present hurdles for Democrats. They need to ditch this ideology and get back to basic common sense

It’s impossible for them. It would require a catastrophic internecine civil war of ideas to take place - but actually there seems to be nobody in that party interested in leading efforts to change course, back towards sanity.

They’re a classic example of the mad leading the blind…

 

[Moxie]

Damn, in my post I mistyped and forgot to put the name of the legend. Right phrase is "as Brazilian football legend Garrincha would say, you need to coordinate with the Russians first (he said that after his coach showed a game plan before a match against the Soviet Union)."

About the money, we are in disagreement. You are judging it by the intentions, I am by the outcome.

But the place has only just been built, so all we can judge it by is "intentions," am I wrong? The outcome is yet to be known.

 

[Kieran]

But the place has only just been built, so all we can judge it by is "intentions," am I wrong? The outcome is yet to be known.

Yes, I’m judging it by its intentions. It’s not the homeless shelter that other homeless people can experience, and deliberately so. Now, we can say that all shelters should have such trimmings, and that’s a good argument, but why your city is spending so much more to pander to a very dubious lobby is a mystery. And of course, they won’t upgrade other shelters accordingly.

That’s an intention - or lack of - worth talking about…

 

[mrzz]

But the place has only just been built, so all we can judge it by is "intentions," am I wrong? The outcome is yet to be known.

But a lot of the variables we are already know. Even not trusting the numbers on the video, there's no much room for doubt here.

But your last phrase here illustrated your whole approach (which is valid). You are giving it the benefit of the doubt. You feel it is, in a broad perspective, the right approach, so let's see where it leads us. It's all fine, but some people won't make the same bet (including me), and that's all fine too.

 

[Federberg]

I think I heard on Fareed Zakaria that when Bloomberg was Mayor the budget was $65bn, now it's $120bn. With no discernible improvements in services. This is the problem with socialism. I bet no thought was given to where the funding for the trans homeless shelter was coming from. Just plucking another apple from the tree...

 

[Moxie]

I think I heard on Fareed Zakaria that when Bloomberg was Mayor the budget was $65bn, now it's $120bn. With no discernible improvements in services. This is the problem with socialism. I bet no thought was given to where the funding for the trans homeless shelter was coming from. Just plucking another apple from the tree...

$65 billion in 2013 (the end of his term,) is worth over $90bn in 2025, so not so much of an increase as you make it sound. Which socialist are you thinking of that is so profligate?...Rudy Giuliani? Bill De Blasio? Eric Adams?

 

[Moxie]

Yes, I’m judging it by its intentions. It’s not the homeless shelter that other homeless people can experience, and deliberately so. Now, we can say that all shelters should have such trimmings, and that’s a good argument, but why your city is spending so much more to pander to a very dubious lobby is a mystery. And of course, they won’t upgrade other shelters accordingly.

That’s an intention - or lack of - worth talking about…

Actually, others are also being upgraded. And earlier this year they created one for families with children with stainless steel appliances, and other amenities. Now, if you don't have children, you can't apply for them. If you didn't just cherry pick one thing, it might not bother you so much. Perhaps, just perhaps, that little TikTok video wasn't so informative.

 

[Kieran]

Actually, others are also being upgraded. And earlier this year they created one for families with children with stainless steel appliances, and other amenities. Now, if you don't have children, you can't apply for them. If you didn't just cherry pick one thing, it might not bother you so much. Perhaps, just perhaps, that little TikTok video wasn't so informative.

Perhaps that little TikTok video was an Instagram video that obviously you didn’t bother to watch because it didn’t chime with your worldview.

It’s okay to criticise your side - it shows good faith and an open mind to the truth…

 

[Kieran]

$65 billion in 2013 (the end of his term,) is worth over $90bn in 2025, so not so much of an increase as you make it sound. Which socialist are you thinking of that is so profligate?...Rudy Giuliani? Bill De Blasio? Eric Adams?

$120bn is $30bn more than $90bn. You’re quite lax about other peoples money.

The socialist who is profligate is any and all them. They’re very careless with their budgets..

 

[Federberg]

$65 billion in 2013 (the end of his term,) is worth over $90bn in 2025, so not so much of an increase as you make it sound. Which socialist are you thinking of that is so profligate?...Rudy Giuliani? Bill De Blasio? Eric Adams?

you make a good point about inflation, but wasn't Giuliani before Bloomberg? What's the utility in bringing his name up?

 

[mrzz]

$65 billion in 2013 (the end of his term,) is worth over $90bn in 2025, so not so much of an increase as you make it sound. Which socialist are you thinking of that is so profligate?...Rudy Giuliani? Bill De Blasio? Eric Adams?

I actually checked, getting data from usinflationcalculator, which in turn gets its data from the US bureau of labour statistics. around 38% of accumulated US inflation. The actual number is 89.79 billions. Adjusted for NY city could very well surpass 90 billion. Well done on the numbers!

But, as @Kieran put, still 30 billions to account for. That is a 33% increase. There is population growth to account for part of that, but on the other hand costs likes public illumination and transport have gone down word wide. More importantly, human labour has been replaced by automation.

Still, part of what drives the inflation calculation comes from taxes (which impact prices). Cities, states and the union are, per definition, generators of inflation (actually, of general price increase, which is different from inflation, but the point is that there is some hidden irony in adjusting a city/state/country budget by inflation).

 

[Kieran]

Definitely a vote winner



Seriously, what is it with the left who think they’re entitled to votes without scrutiny?

 

[Moxie]

Perhaps that little TikTok video was an Instagram video that obviously you didn’t bother to watch because it didn’t chime with your worldview.

It’s okay to criticise your side - it shows good faith and an open mind to the truth…

I did watch it, but forgive me if I forgot the source. Clearly you know which one I'm talking about. Please stop lecturing me about criticizing my side. You refuse to ever give ground on yours. Just sayin....

I think it shows an open mind to explore what the video actually contains and where it's coming from, rather than just posting it. These little videos get posted pretty lazily, if you ask me.

 

[Moxie]

you make a good point about inflation, but wasn't Giuliani before Bloomberg? What's the utility in bringing his name up?

Because he left us with a deficit, which Bloomberg turned into a surplus. Giuliani was a Republican. So my question still stands: where's the "socialism" in all of this?

I actually checked, getting data from usinflationcalculator, which in turn gets its data from the US bureau of labour statistics. around 38% of accumulated US inflation. The actual number is 89.79 billions. Adjusted for NY city could very well surpass 90 billion. Well done on the numbers!

But, as @Kieran put, still 30 billions to account for. That is a 33% increase. There is population growth to account for part of that, but on the other hand costs likes public illumination and transport have gone down word wide. More importantly, human labour has been replaced by automation.

Still, part of what drives the inflation calculation comes from taxes (which impact prices). Cities, states and the union are, per definition, generators of inflation (actually, of general price increase, which is different from inflation, but the point is that there is some hidden irony in adjusting a city/state/country budget by inflation).

Thanks for checking my math. My actual point, though, was the one above. Federberg (who posted it, not Kieran) said that this is the problem with socialism. While we have elected a Democratic Socialist to be our new Mayor, he doesn't take office until January.

 

[Kieran]

I did watch it, but forgive me if I forgot the source. Clearly you know which one I'm talking about. Please stop lecturing me about criticizing my side. You refuse to ever give ground on yours. Just sayin....

I think it shows an open mind to explore what the video actually contains and where it's coming from, rather than just posting it. These little videos get posted pretty lazily, if you ask me.

As if I didn't, huh? Come on, gimme some credit. These shelters are a dropsy to an elitist cause, at the insistence of activists. At the expense of other homeless people. I pity the homeless, it must be the most terrifying thing to happen, and we have huge issues with it here too, and our government similarly seem more concerned with other more virtuous causes than with doing the right thing..

 

[Moxie]

As if I didn't, huh? Come on, gimme some credit. These shelters are a dropsy to an elitist cause, at the insistence of activists. At the expense of other homeless people. I pity the homeless, it must be the most terrifying thing to happen, and we have huge issues with it here too, and our government similarly seem more concerned with other more virtuous causes than with doing the right thing..

No, you don't...you bend over backwards to go back to Biden and even Obama to find fault, but for all of Trump's flirting with and completely indulging in totalitarian ways, the worst you ever say is that you don't personally like the guy. You don't get credit for that.

But there ARE homeless transgender people, and they need shelter. It's not like they built it and it's going to go empty. Plus, what if the idea needs some modification...that can happen, too. The good news is, there's a new homeless shelter.

 

[Kieran]

No, you don't...you bend over backwards to go back to Biden and even Obama to find fault, but for all of Trump's flirting with and completely indulging in totalitarian ways, the worst you ever say is that you don't personally like the guy. You don't get credit for that.

Why not? I think he’s as disruptive to politics everywhere as he is to America. But your American left have been default setting mad.

But there ARE homeless transgender people, and they need shelter. It's not like they built it and it's going to go empty. Plus, what if the idea needs some modification...that can happen, too. The good news is, there's a new homeless shelter.

It would be a good idea to modify it. Trans might have replaced blacks as your* pet poodle over there, but this is sickeningly insulting to other homeless folks…






*yes you, Blofeld, I can see you!