US Open 2025 [Men] - Grand Slam

[Kieran]

A let on a serve almost always favors the returner
College tennis World Team tennis and some ITF junior events have eliminated lets
The ATP has previously conducted trials of a no let rule at the Challenger Tour level to get feed back from players and the public
It is still a decision for the entire sport to consider
Our dear friend Craig Tiley has been a strong advocate to abolish lets at Grand Slam level

Of course. He tells liars and cheats that he’s the Australian border police and government…

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

No extra night match on Ashe night session due to the withdrawal of Marketa Vondrousova ( left knee injury) in QF match against Sabalenka
Djokovic - Fritz now NB 8pm

 

[britbox]

The reason people say that--and really, most say he's the best of the Open Era--is because he's got the best statistical record of any non-Slam winner of the Open Era and, at this point, it isn't particularly close. Consider:

2 Tour Finals (only non-Slam winner to win it twice)
1 Olympics
7 Masters (most by non-Slam winners, +2 over Rios)
24 overall titles (5th most by non-Slam winners after Okker 34, Ferrer 27, Clerc and Gottfried 25)
3 GS finals (tied with Ruud for most without winning)

We can say that there were more brilliant non-Slam winners, in terms of peak ability (e.g. Nalbandian, Rios, Mecir), but in terms of career resume, he's top of the pack, ahead of guys like Okker, Gottfried, Ferrer, etc.

Anyhow, to me this makes him an interesting figure, historically speaking. If he won a Slam, he'd sort of be like another Goran Ivanisevic: blocked by better players in his prime, but improbably snuck one out when no one was expecting it. In truth, Zverev's record looks very similar to the better single Slam winners like Ivanisevic, Chang, Roddick, Orantes, Gerulaitis, etc.

Problem is for Zed that I think he thought that brief window of opportunity would be open a little while longer as the Big 3 started leaving the stage. Sinner and Carlos felt the draught and slammed it shut.

 

[Moxie]

Problem is for Zed that I think he thought that brief window of opportunity would be open a little while longer as the Big 3 started leaving the stage. Sinner and Carlos felt the draught and slammed it shut.

The problem for Zed is that he thought he deserved that window. He thinks he deserves a lot. If he were the real deal, he'd have challenged the Big 3 more, and the New 2, at least sometimes. At the very least, he should have won that US Open when he was up 2 sets. Stop crying. Be a better tennis player.

 

[kskate2]

I had to have a 'nanna nap' I am a walking zombie with these insane time zones
I have to disagree, abolishing lets could speed up play, remove the element of luck from these calls, and simplify the game by making it more continuous, just my thoughts

Sorry MM, don't agree w/ playing lets on serve. Kieran is right, if it was allowed you'd see more lucky points won. If the serve is the one shot you can control, what happens when lets are allowed? You will lose some of your control and it becomes like the other shots. Besides, can you imagine how many folks would practice aiming for the net to get it to dribble over?

 

[Moxie]

If Fritz thinks he's going to win this match by going toe-to-toe from the baseline with Djokovic, he'll be back in the locker room soon.

 

[kskate2]

If Fritz thinks he's going to win this match by going toe-to-toe from the baseline with Djokovic, he'll be back in the locker room soon.

Well, he doesn't think he's going to win. I know I've said this before, but it's truer now than ever before. He's a blockhead. Dude is poor on BP's in this matchup. It's why he's 0for. Hasn't learned anything in 10 previous matches, and repeats the same dumb shot selections every time.

 

[Moxie]

Sorry MM, don't agree w/ playing lets on serve. Kieran is right, if it was allowed you'd see more lucky points won. If the serve is the one shot you can control, what happens when lets are allowed? You will lose some of your control and it becomes like the other shots. Besides, can you imagine how many folks would practice aiming for the net to get it to dribble over?

I don't think players will practice the let serve, because it's too low-percentage, but I agree with the rest. The let doesn't lose us that much time.

 

[kskate2]

I don't think players will practice the let serve, because it's too low-percentage, but I agree with the rest. The let doesn't lose us that much time.

Yeah, we said the same thing about the underhand serve and look how it's featured the last few years.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

How many break points has Fritz wasted
Regarding the let it does usually favors the returners btw

 

[kskate2]

0-8 I believe. and then of course at the first time of asking surrenders his serve like a kitten

 

[Moxie]

Fritz can't keep playing Novak's game and hoping for a different outcome. Especially if he'd not going to serve better.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Fritz can't keep playing Novak's game and hoping for a different outcome. Especially if he'd not going to serve better.

Fritz has a serve?

 

[kskate2]

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

This is going to be H2H Novak 11-0 maybe I should go and get a manicure
The most competitive matches have been in the doubles this year btw

 

[kskate2]

Fritz has a serve?

no he doesn't. dude dumped serve after being gifted a break from Djoke on a dumb dropper attempt

 

[kskate2]

2 sets up and hasn't really done much tonight. he's leading in UE's and has less winners. Still wins 2 sets. He'll definitely have to raise his level on Fri for Chuck.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

no he doesn't. dude dumped serve after being gifted a break from Djoke on a dumb dropper attempt

I know he is doing my Head In!

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

2 sets up and hasn't really done much tonight. he's leading in UE's and has less winners. Still wins 2 sets. He'll definitely have to raise his level on Fri for Chuck.

Carlos will send Novak to the wood shed on this performance

 

[kskate2]

I've switched over to House Hunters. See ya later.