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Fair point, but he did get a bit of a rest because Jordan Thompson pulled up lame. Unfortunate for Thompson, but timely for Fritz. He looked pretty good today, though he lost the plot for a set. Blisters featured, and that's over-use, but not the worst thing that can happen.
he got a rest because someone was injured. he can't possibly count on that as a reprieve. my whole issue is when the draw is made, you're either starting on Mon or Tues. If you're in a final at Eastbourne on Sat where you've played 4 matches that week, it will catch up to you at some point.
 
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he got a rest because someone was injured. he can't possibly count on that as a reprieve. my whole issue is when the draw is made, you're either starting on Mon or Tues. If you're in a final at Eastbourne on Sat where you've played 4 matches that week, it will catch up to you at some point.
No, I get it, and he played 2 x 5-setters to start the tournament, I think. I've said here, and I've said before: if you want to be a serious contender for a Major, why play a tournament the week before? It might work out for him, or it might not. Then you'll learn. He's playing Carlos next. Will he lose that match because he's tired or has blisters? Or because he's over-matched? Because I'll be shocked if he wins it.
 

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Order of Play for Wimbledon, Day 10 QF Round, July 9, 2025

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I forgot to post this after Carlos Alcaraz QF win,

Carlos Alcaraz becomes the 3rd youngest man in the Open Era to reach 3 consecutive Wimbledon Singles SFs,

1 Borg 22 yo 20 days old
2. Nadal 22 yo 20 days old
3. Alcaraz 22yo 56 days old
 
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By the way, Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard will never be. If he was, he would have shown it by now.
 

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No, I get it, and he played 2 x 5-setters to start the tournament, I think. I've said here, and I've said before: if you want to be a serious contender for a Major, why play a tournament the week before? It might work out for him, or it might not. Then you'll learn. He's playing Carlos next. Will he lose that match because he's tired or has blisters? Or because he's over-matched? Because I'll be shocked if he wins it.
He is over-matched by Carlos. Last year in USO final it was obvious against Sinner that he never stood a chance in that match. I don't see much difference now. Carlos paced himself well and is peaking at the moment. He will need to have a bad day to lose in SF or not so inspired day in the final to lose that.

The upper part of the draw seems more interesting. Will Shelton manage to push Sinner who looked beatable against Dimitrov? I think Shelton has some chance and I have to agree with @PhiEaglesfan712 he is fun to watch, even though he is kind of a serve bot. His FH is another weapon and he goes to a net a lot, plus he is lefty which is always a bit tricky to play against. He sometimes pulls off highlight reel shots which excites the crowd making him more than just a serve bot. He just didn't improve much and I feel he could if he would get a better coach. Let's see if Sinner will be 100% today.

I think Cobolli could push Novak too if he doesn't play too erratic and sprays errors. Novak didn't look too good against D-Minor, but he knows how to raise his game when it matters and reach last matches of the grand slam. It is hard to imagine that he will let this chance pass considering the age. He probably likes his chances to reach the final here, certainly more than in RG.
 

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The upper part of the draw seems more interesting. Will Shelton manage to push Sinner who looked beatable against Dimitrov? I think Shelton has some chance and I have to agree with @PhiEaglesfan712 he is fun to watch, even though he is kind of a serve bot. His FH is another weapon and he goes to a net a lot, plus he is lefty which is always a bit tricky to play against. He sometimes pulls off highlight reel shots which excites the crowd making him more than just a serve bot. He just didn't improve much and I feel he could if he would get a better coach. Let's see if Sinner will be 100% today.
Ben's actually improved a lot since his 2023 US Open run. A few years ago, I would have agreed with you on Ben being a serve bot, but he has improved his all around game, especially his return game. (Ben was specifically asked this question by reporters during Wimbledon, and he answered that he has worked on his return game.)

If you want to see a player that didn't improve much, take a look at Holger Rune. With his talent, I just wonder what Rune would be if he had Ben Shelton's mentality.
 

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Ben's actually improved a lot since his 2023 US Open run. A few years ago, I would have agreed with you on Ben being a serve bot, but he has improved his all around game, especially his return game. (Ben was specifically asked this question by reporters during Wimbledon, and he answered that he has worked on his return game.)

If you want to see a player that didn't improve much, take a look at Holger Rune. With his talent, I just wonder what Rune would be if he had Ben Shelton's mentality.
Fair enough. I don't follow Ben too closely. Watched him against Sonego though. His BH still needs to improve. He is making a lot of leg work just to avoid it, meaning he relies too much on his FH.

Rune is a mess right now. Hope he can turn it around and figure it all out before it is too late.
 
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By the way, Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard will never be. If he was, he would have shown it by now.
There you go again. Labeling folks because they don't meet your high standards. Some more drivel from your Kmart crystal ball. Ever heard of Stanimal? He was a late bloomer in the Big 3 era. It took him years to get to the level needed to believe he could hang w/ the top dawgs.
 
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who thought Shelton would be the tougher test today. I'm actually a bit disgusted
 

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who thought Shelton would be the tougher test today. I'm actually a bit disgusted
Cobolli, on the other hand, takes the first set off of Djoker in the TB.
 

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Cobolli, on the other hand, takes the first set off of Djoker in the TB.
He is playing great, outsmarting Novak the way I see it. Novak is not playing bad at all, he did have a loose game when he served for the set, but apart from that Cobolli is on fire.
 
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He is playing great, outsmarting Novak the way I see it. Novak is not playing bad at all, he did have a loose game when he served for the set, but apart from that Cobolli is on fire.
He's going to have to stay at this level and keep up his intensity to get the job done, though, and that's a lot to ask.
 
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He's going to have to stay at this level and keep up his intensity to get the job done, though, and that's a lot to ask.
He should be able to push Novak to 5th set at least if his level doesn't drop a lot.
 
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Come on, folks. Novak will spin this around and win it in four. We've seen this storyline before: Novak loses the first set, then wins the next three without too much concern.

Oh wait, he just broke him in the 2nd. Imagine that.
 

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I am not surprised to see Shelton put up a fight - he's a bonafide top 10 guy and one of the top candidates to be the next new Masters winner. But it looks like Sinner is healthy. The SF vs Novak (presumably) should be interesting.
 

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Sinner shuts down injury concerns he is into his '4th' straight slam SF defeating Shelton 76(2) 64 64
Jannik Forza!
 
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I am not surprised to see Shelton put up a fight - he's a bonafide top 10 guy and one of the top candidates to be the next new Masters winner. But it looks like Sinner is healthy. The SF vs Novak (presumably) should be interesting.
Shelton looked rushed on his fhand during the match and had to hit many bhands that could have been runarounds in slower conditions eg clay
Shelton protects his bhand much better on clay than on grass
 

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I hate to say this, but this appears to have turned into just another one of those nice, practice sessions for Novak! The kid "red-lined" enuf in the 1st set to win that TB, but it's happened B4 w/ Novak serving for a set! I hope Cobolli can continue to improve and build on this result and not be just another pretty face that disappoints in the end! :face-with-hand-over-mouth: :fearful-face: :face-with-tears-of-joy: :yawningface:
 
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