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Well, the competition seems to be very interesting this year, Nadal, Stan, Wawrinka, Thiem, Zverev , Novak, they also talk about Cilic.....we'll see
 

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Well, the competition seems to be very interesting this year, Nadal, Stan, Wawrinka, Thiem, Zverev , Novak, they also talk about Cilic.....we'll see
You didn't mention Sir Andy ..who knows with him..if his shoulder strengthens he may make a run..
 

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You didn't mention Sir Andy ..who knows with him..if his shoulder strengthens he may make a run..
I don't know what to say because even that Andy has a few titles on clay he needs to be in too good conditions to reach semis and finals, clay is not his best surface
 

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Well, the competition seems to be very interesting this year, Nadal, Stan, Wawrinka, Thiem, Zverev , Novak, they also talk about Cilic.....we'll see

1. Only you will call this an interesting competition. There does not seem to be anyone providing a challenge for Rafa.
2. Stan and Wawrinka are the same player :)
 

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1. Only you will call this an interesting competition. There does not seem to be anyone providing a challenge for Rafa.
2. Stan and Wawrinka are the same player :)
2. oops my bad :p
 

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While different people might come up with a different ordering, everybody agrees that the top 6 contenders are Rafa, Novak, Stan, Thiem, Andy and Zverev. Among these six contenders, four will have their own quarters being top 4 seeds. The only interesting thing is to find out as to in which quarter Thiem lands and in which quarter Zverev lands. Also, potentially Thiem and Zverev can land in the same quarter that is headed by one of top 4.

We will have answers to these questions at 12 noon on Friday Paris time or 6AM EDT when the draw ceremony is scheduled.

I hope the following.

1. Thiem and Zverev do not fall in the same quarter.
2. Neither fall in Stan's or Rafa's quarter.
3. Thiem falls in Andy's quarter as he has match-up issues with Novak.
4. Zverev falls in Novak's quarter.

That way we have a decent chance of Rafa, Stan, Thiem and Zverev making it to SF.
 
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If Novak does not win RG now, he goes from a man holding all four GS trophies to a man holding nothing, all in a period of an year.
 

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If Novak does not win RG now, he goes from a man holding all four GS trophies to a man holding nothing, all in a period of an year.
Nadal and Federer went through that too, nothing new
 

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While different people might come up with a different ordering, everybody agrees that the top 6 contenders are Rafa, Novak, Stan, Thiem, Andy and Zverev. Among these six contenders, four will have their own quarters being top 4 seeds. The only interesting thing is to find out as to in which quarter Thiem lands and in which quarter Zverev lands. Also, potentially Thiem and Zverev can land in the same quarter that is headed by one of top 4.

We will answers to these questions at 12 noon on Friday Paris time or 6AM EDT when the draw ceremony is scheduled.

I hope the following.

1. Thiem and Zverev do not fall in the same quarter.
2. Neither fall in Stan's or Rafa's quarter.
3. Thiem falls in Andy's quarter as he has match-up issues with Novak.
4. Zverev falls in Novak's quarter.

That way we have a decent chance of Rafa, Stan, Thiem and Zverev making it to SF.
after watching AO ..these draws are so overrated..
 
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It will be very interesting to see how the sub24 year olds( Thiem, Zverev and Krygios) perform in the best of 5 format especially if they encounter a veteran clay court player such as Ferrer or any of those Spaniards or South American players..plus the French..(Simon, JowillieTs or Monfils). On paper you will pick the youth but i wouldn't bet against JowillieTs or Simon in a pre qtrs match.
 
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GameSetandMath, I agree with your 1st point insofar as Roland Garros is looking about as clear a shot to a Slam title for a great player as I've seen in recent years. There really are no clear challengers for Rafa, with Revamped Roger out, Novak and Andy struggling, Stan showing little signs of Beast Mode, and none of the young guys quite ready to be serious contenders for a Slam, or at least Roland Garros.

That said, there still are dangers and winning a Slam is never easy and you almost always have to face at least several very good players en route to a title (almost, but not always). I for one would love to see a Thiem-Rafa re-match at RG. I still heavily favor Rafa, but I think it would be interesting. And there are a few other players who could make things difficult for Rafa: Stan is always dangerous, Zverev is brimming with confident, even Grigor might want to give it another shot. And ultimately whoever he faces in the final, it won't be Mariano Puerta.
 

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GameSetandMath, I agree with your 1st point insofar as Roland Garros is looking about as clear a shot to a Slam title for a great player as I've seen in recent years. There really are no clear challengers for Rafa, with Revamped Roger out, Novak and Andy struggling, Stan showing little signs of Beast Mode, and none of the young guys quite ready to be serious contenders for a Slam, or at least Roland Garros.

That said, there still are dangers and winning a Slam is never easy and you almost always have to face at least several very good players en route to a title (almost, but not always). I for one would love to see a Thiem-Rafa re-match at RG. I still heavily favor Rafa, but I think it would be interesting. And there are a few other players who could make things difficult for Rafa: Stan is always dangerous, Zverev is brimming with confident, even Grigor might want to give it another shot. And ultimately whoever he faces in the final, it won't be Mariano Puerta.

So if you think that the best players are struggling then I suppose that you also are thinking Roger will win Wimbledon but has you thought that some of the young guys could be serious contenders at Wimbledon too?
 

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Nadal and Federer went through that too, nothing new

Nadal and Federer never held all four recent GS trophies at any point of time. That is the difference. So, they never went from all four to nothing.
 

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GameSetandMath, I agree with your 1st point insofar as Roland Garros is looking about as clear a shot to a Slam title for a great player as I've seen in recent years. There really are no clear challengers for Rafa, with Revamped Roger out, Novak and Andy struggling, Stan showing little signs of Beast Mode, and none of the young guys quite ready to be serious contenders for a Slam, or at least Roland Garros.

That said, there still are dangers and winning a Slam is never easy and you almost always have to face at least several very good players en route to a title (almost, but not always). I for one would love to see a Thiem-Rafa re-match at RG. I still heavily favor Rafa, but I think it would be interesting. And there are a few other players who could make things difficult for Rafa: Stan is always dangerous, Zverev is brimming with confident, even Grigor might want to give it another shot. And ultimately whoever he faces in the final, it won't be Mariano Puerta.
Grigor career is really taking a Mark Philippousis like path...he was absolutely brilliant at AO 2017 but has been no where close since..I am really surprised that he hasn't found a coach to work with him on his game in the front court and around the net..He should've been right at Annacone door steps or ringing his cellphone off the hooks years ago when Paul parted ways with Fed. Ten years from now, he will be in the crowd of ATP players that's speaks about how many WTA players and celebrities babes they took to bed :dance1: but no grand slams titles to speak of.