US Politics Thread

[Federberg]

Look at all the flags flown during the No kIngs events yesterday and see what and whom Democrats align themselves with...if you still cannot figure out why regular Americans chose Trump, despite ALL his shortcomings, than you will never figure it out.

well you won't get any argument from me about the flags. But... dude.. 8 million?? That's huge! I think regular Americans are voicing their displeasure. No 3rd term, prices too high. No wars of whim.

 

[Kieran]

I think there are a lot of American Jews who are anti-Likud, or more specifically anti- Netanyahu. We have to be careful not to confuse this position with anti-semitism. It's bad enough when some of the pro- Netanyahu crowd try to accuse those who don't support his actions as anti-semitic.

I would believe this from you, that you’re capable of practiced discernment when it comes to criticising Israel, but not from 99.999% of the so called critics of Israel.

When the only thing they protest against with monotonous regularity is the Jewish State, let’s call it what it is. Now the usual counter-attack strategies against this charge - “I don’t hate Jews, I’m just criticising the policies of the Israeli govt,” or “I’m only hating on Netanyahu, some of my best friends are Jews”, or “Israel has no right to exist and should be destroyed from the river to the sea and I don’t give af what happens to the Jews there”, or “Jewish banks bla”, or “Rothschilds boo” - fall flat in the eerie absence of similarly intense and violent protests against the worst regimes in the region.

In fact, the anti-Jewish lobby tend to love the Ayatollahs of Mordor, the homophobic, misogynistic sadists who are actual Nazis, as opposed to the phantom Nazis we usually hear of. And they know that the attack on Bondi Beach or the burning of the Jewish ambulances, or the spiteful but slavishly predictable rhetoric of the mayor of New York’s missus are just small examples of what these people really mean…

 

[Kieran]

All I can say is "ENUF!"

And yet you can’t even spell it, seemingly.

Again - if your side of the aisle didn’t want Trump, why didn’t you put forward a proper candidate against him? You can’t have believed that Harris was presidential material, surely? Your own party told her straight to her face during the presidential candidates battle four years previously..

 

[Federberg]

I would believe this from you, that you’re capable of practiced discernment when it comes to criticising Israel, but not from 99.999% of the so called critics of Israel.

When the only thing they protest against with monotonous regularity is the Jewish State, let’s call it what it is. Now the usual counter-attack strategies against this charge - “I don’t hate Jews, I’m just criticising the policies of the Israeli govt,” or “I’m only hating on Netanyahu, some of my best friends are Jews”, or “Israel has no right to exist and should be destroyed from the river to the sea and I don’t give af what happens to the Jews there”, or “Jewish banks bla”, or “Rothschilds boo” - fall flat in the eerie absence of similarly intense and violent protests against the worst regimes in the region.

In fact, the anti-Jewish lobby tend to love the Ayatollahs of Mordor, the homophobic, misogynistic sadists who are actual Nazis, as opposed to the phantom Nazis we usually hear of. And they know that the attack on Bondi Beach or the burning of the Jewish ambulances, or the spiteful but slavishly predictable rhetoric of the mayor of New York’s missus are just small examples of what these people really mean…

I get that for the non-Jewish activists on the left. They might not make that distinction. But do you really believe that American Jews of a leftist persuasion are also unable to make the distinction?

 

[Kieran]

I get that for the non-Jewish activists on the left. They might not make that distinction. But do you really believe that American Jews of a leftist persuasion are also unable to make the distinction?

I think leftists are leftists. They’re not good at discernment. They’re not interested in questioning their own side’s narrative, and for them their own side is always with the left. But also, American Jews on the left make up a very small cadre of opposition to the Jewish state. The marauding hordes of bloodthirsty morons are largely not Jewish…

 

[Federberg]

I think leftists are leftists. They’re not good at discernment. They’re not interested in questioning their own side’s narrative, and for them their own side is always with the left. But also, American Jews on the left make up a very small cadre of opposition to the Jewish state. The marauding hordes of bloodthirsty morons are largely not Jewish…

I think you would be surprised at the polling of American Jews and their views about Likud's policies. But... I also wouldn't be surprised if the rising anti-semitism on both the left and right hasn't forced a lot of them to re-assess their views. Whether that means leaving the left completely or something else is where the question lies for them.. imho..

 

[Federberg]

THIS!!!

 

[Federberg]

 

[Fiero425]

THIS!!!

Women have now failed other women 3 times on the National stage! IMO, it continues to prove the narrative that women hate other women! They can be jealous of their looks, their position, husband, kids, intelligence, & political accuman! Hillary was a milti-threat so women supported a rapist, pedo, & overall psycho! I didn't think it possible that after all that went against her w/ Republicans & FNC harranguing her over Benghazi back in 2016 that she could lose the presidency to Trump! Comey helped w/ his last min. investigations making public statements while at it! After a million people died during his incompetence of the Covid pandemic, they decided we needed a KING in office again voting Trump in over Kamala! Plenty of buyer's remorse out there, but what will it cost us this time around? A war in the Middle East? Just what we needed to drive up those "gas prices!" Troops will be deployed w/o a declaration of war! When will Republicans stand up in Congress? Shutting down the Fed Gov't for over a month? Inflation's climbing, a recession on the way, & only a matter of time before the stock market crashes again! Do we really think Kamala could have been worse for the country? I'm disgusted and just avoid the news as we crash & burn!

 

[Murat B.]

Women have now failed other women 3 times on the National stage! IMO, it continues to prove the narrative that women hate other women! They can be jealous of their looks, their position, husband, kids, intelligence, & political accuman! Hillary was a milti-threat so women supported a rapist, pedo, & overall psycho! I didn't think it possible that after all that went against her w/ Republicans & FNC harranguing her over Benghazi back in 2016 that she could lose the presidency to Trump! Comey helped w/ his last min. investigations making public statements while at it! After a million people died during his incompetence of the Covid pandemic, they decided we needed a KING in office again voting Trump in over Kamala! Plenty of buyer's remorse out there, but what will it cost us this time around? A war in the Middle East? Just what we needed to drive up those "gas prices!" Troops will be deployed w/o a declaration of war! When will Republicans stand up in Congress? Shutting down the Fed Gov't for over a month? Inflation's climbing, a recession on the way, & only a matter of time before the stock market crashes again! Do we really think Kamala could have been worse for the country? I'm disgusted and just avoid the news as we crash & burn!

 

[Federberg]

Women have now failed other women 3 times on the National stage! IMO, it continues to prove the narrative that women hate other women! They can be jealous of their looks, their position, husband, kids, intelligence, & political accuman! Hillary was a milti-threat so women supported a rapist, pedo, & overall psycho! I didn't think it possible that after all that went against her w/ Republicans & FNC harranguing her over Benghazi back in 2016 that she could lose the presidency to Trump! Comey helped w/ his last min. investigations making public statements while at it! After a million people died during his incompetence of the Covid pandemic, they decided we needed a KING in office again voting Trump in over Kamala! Plenty of buyer's remorse out there, but what will it cost us this time around? A war in the Middle East? Just what we needed to drive up those "gas prices!" Troops will be deployed w/o a declaration of war! When will Republicans stand up in Congress? Shutting down the Fed Gov't for over a month? Inflation's climbing, a recession on the way, & only a matter of time before the stock market crashes again! Do we really think Kamala could have been worse for the country? I'm disgusted and just avoid the news as we crash & burn!

isn't this a bit simplistic though? Why should women vote for women just because they're women? Isn't this the identity politics dead end that Dems have got themselves in trouble for in the past? I see no more reason why a woman should vote for a woman, than a black man should vote for a black candidate. What matters is what policies the candidate represents, whether they're aligned in values. What can that person do for the voter? I often wonder whether the core issue for that sort of thinking is a fundamental lack of respect for voters or a complete absence of substantive solutions. Given the questionable success of the strategy I'm guessing voters in general share my view?

 

[Fiero425]

isn't this a bit simplistic though? Why should women vote for women just because they're women? Isn't this the identity politics dead end that Dems have got themselves in trouble for in the past? I see no more reason why a woman should vote for a woman, than a black man should vote for a black candidate. What matters is what policies the candidate represents, whether they're aligned in values. What can that person do for the voter? I often wonder whether the core issue for that sort of thinking is a fundamental lack of respect for voters or a complete absence of substantive solutions. Given the questionable success of the strategy I'm guessing voters in general share my view?

I've heard that ridiculous argument B4! All it does is give cover to women who whine & complain about being shackled, undermined, & prevented opportunities! Of course they're FOS as there are more women out there! They literally vote against their own fk'n interest like so many other so called oppressed groups! Liberals give them representation while Republicans put empty-headed bimbos in positions of power! Women proved they have power w/ the "Me Too" movement, but as usual they overplayed their hand & they turned on each other! Nothing new really! Heaven knows women hated Hillary's guts for all the wrong reasons! I'm no fan of the woman, but she would have been infinitely more qualified to run the world over Trump! Luckily as an old geezer, I couldn't GAF! I'm retired! Let them burn it all down! I stopped caring after he was elected back in 2016! We deserve all that happens!

 

[Kieran]

I've heard that ridiculous argument B4! All it does is give cover to women who whine & complain about being shackled, undermined, & prevented opportunities! Of course they're FOS as there are more women out there! They literally vote against their own fk'n interest like so many other so called oppressed groups! Liberals give them representation while Republicans put empty-headed bimbos in positions of power! Women proved they have power w/ the "Me Too" movement, but as usual they overplayed their hand & they turned on each other! Nothing new really! Heaven knows women hated Hillary's guts for all the wrong reasons! I'm no fan of the woman, but she would have been infinitely more qualified to run the world over Trump! Luckily as an old geezer, I couldn't GAF! I'm retired! Let them burn it all down! I stopped caring after he was elected back in 2016! We deserve all that happens!

Actually it’s in everybody’s interest to vote for the best candidate, regardless of their gender. Even regardless of their party. Kamala Harris was the “empty headed bimbo put in a position of power”, as you put it, and that was on your lot for doing that. You thought that people were stupid and similarly in thrall to identity politics the way the democrats are,

It’s shameful and embarrassing how entitled democrats were at the last election, but not unexpected.

 

[Kieran]

Of all the strange nonsensical reasons that so-called “activists” (who are really radical insurgents) use for their flag waving nonsense, the most non sequitur-like reason is “no kings.”

What are these restless infants saying now? It’s bizarrely touching how committed they are to revealing non-existent Nazis and invisible kings in waiting. But this made me laugh. Typically, the placard-holding troll has no clue why she’s there, and when it’s exposed where she’s from, the irony is delicious.

 

[Front242]

Bring on this ground invasion Trump and his goons keep denying. You destroy world economies and the price of fuel, you deserve to die, you warmongering pieces of shit.
Iran's missiles are almost all gone ? Haha. Trump is full of shit. Watching him, that pos warmonger Hegseth and Rubio trying to keep straight faces while lying to everyone about how they're supposedly "obliterating" Iran is utterly hilarious. Dream on you evil school kid murdering scum rapist paedo. Hope Iran blow you and Bibi to bits along with all your warmongering scum personnel and soldiers. The world would be a much better place.

 

[britbox]

Women have now failed other women 3 times on the National stage! IMO, it continues to prove the narrative that women hate other women! They can be jealous of their looks, their position, husband, kids, intelligence, & political accuman! Hillary was a milti-threat so women supported a rapist, pedo, & overall psycho! I didn't think it possible that after all that went against her w/ Republicans & FNC harranguing her over Benghazi back in 2016 that she could lose the presidency to Trump! Comey helped w/ his last min. investigations making public statements while at it! After a million people died during his incompetence of the Covid pandemic, they decided we needed a KING in office again voting Trump in over Kamala! Plenty of buyer's remorse out there, but what will it cost us this time around? A war in the Middle East? Just what we needed to drive up those "gas prices!" Troops will be deployed w/o a declaration of war! When will Republicans stand up in Congress? Shutting down the Fed Gov't for over a month? Inflation's climbing, a recession on the way, & only a matter of time before the stock market crashes again! Do we really think Kamala could have been worse for the country? I'm disgusted and just avoid the news as we crash & burn!

But using your logic... you'd have voted for Trump because he was a man... or does your logic only apply to women? or just women who need a man to tell them how to vote... whatever way you dice it Fiero, there are a ton of inconsistencies! I'm in the camp that looks on in bemusement that people truly believe in this voting system - that it's not compromised and these elected officials actually represent you... Still, I think there is hope - nobody other than an utter moron could possibly believe that by 2030.

 

[Fiero425]

But using your logic... you'd have voted for Trump because he was a man... or does your logic only apply to women? or just women who need a man to tell them how to vote... whatever way you dice it Fiero, there are a ton of inconsistencies! I'm in the camp that looks on in bemusement that people truly believe in this voting system - that it's not compromised and these elected officials actually represent you... Still, I think there is hope - nobody other than an utter moron could possibly believe that by 2030.

Bite your fk'n tongue! You have to be a special kind of dumb to come to such logic after my yrs. ranting against Republicans! Since I believe you're a foreigner, I'll give you a pass! Americans are strange w/ little common sense or we wouldn't be in this situation again! The system was ok B4 Republicans lost their collective, fk'n minds; so oppressed, so misunderstood, & so put upon by the MSM! Dems will learn they can't play this game of being the "adult in the room!" The people of this country are fk'd up and conservatives have taken advantage of that cultural insanity! Liberals will just have to start fighting "fire w/ fire!" They don't need to start lying like a rug, but stop being respectful at least! Call them what they are; "a collective of degenerate psychopaths being led by a narcissistic POS!"

 

[britbox]

Bite your fk'n tongue! You have to be a special kind of dumb to come to such a conclusion! Since I believe you're a foreigner, I'll give you a pass! Americans are strange w/ little common sense or we wouldn't be in this situation again! The system was ok B4 Republicans lost their collective, fk'n minds; so oppressed, so misunderstood, & so put upon by the MSM! Dems will learn they can't play this game of being the "adult in the room!" The people of this country are fk'd up and conservatives have taken advantage of that cultural insanity! Liberals will just have to start fighting "fire w/ fire!" They don't need to start lying like a rug, but stop being respectful at least! Call them what they are; "a collective of degenerate psychopaths being led by a narcissistic POS!"

The system was not OK - well maybe it was for you personally. The USA is trillions in debt. You've propped that up by the petrodollar for decades. The only federal thing about the Federal Reserve is the name. Private bankers control your money supply. Your "unlimited credit" has been propped up by keeping that system in place - by any means necessary.

Now, you're saying women should vote for women just because they're women. I'm saying it doesn't matter a jot because you're heading along the same trajectory anyway... and the logic of gender based voting is nonsense - otherwise by your very own logic you'd be voting for Trump because he's a man. As for cultural insanity - don't the so-called Liberals have a problem even defining what a woman is? Maybe start with some basics first.

Sorry, it doesn't matter which side the pollies are on - both sides are deeply compromised - and the same applies in most western countries - Did you learn nothing from the Epstein files?. Sorry to break the bad news, but you'll have to remove yourself from the political teat at some point. Alternatively, feel free to keep watching the Lunatic Olympics and roaring on your favourite contender.

 

[Federberg]

^men should vote for men
women should vote for women
blacks should vote for blacks
white for whites
asians for asians
latinos for latinos
trans for trans
where does the madness end? cat people vs dog people??

 

[Federberg]

And now I'm finding coming cause with MTG on the regular!