US Politics Thread

[Moxie]

Agreed.

Also I’m hearing that Trump thinks this Iran thing is popular

This is one of the many dangers of the bubble that Trump lives in. There were a lot of surrogates out today speaking on the Sunday morning news shows. They are unwilling to call it a "war," even though Trump does. And to the extent that they do speak of war, they say that Iran started it, in the 70s. And Trump is the only President willing to finish it.

While conservatives and Republicans are usually willing to get on board the patriotism train when there's a military action, not so much this time. You know why..Trump ran on America First and staying out of foreign conflicts. If this ends soon, and goes reasonably well for the US, he may do ok, but that's not looking likely. It's a broken promise, and it's seen as distracting from the economy. His numbers are terrible, but I'm sure no one tells him that.

 

[Federberg]

This is one of the many dangers of the bubble that Trump lives in. There were a lot of surrogates out today speaking on the Sunday morning news shows. They are unwilling to call it a "war," even though Trump does. And to the extent that they do speak of war, they say that Iran started it, in the 70s. And Trump is the only President willing to finish it.

While conservatives and Republicans are usually willing to get on board the patriotism train when there's a military action, not so much this time. You know why..Trump ran on America First and staying out of foreign conflicts. If this ends soon, and goes reasonably well for the US, he may do ok, but that's not looking likely. It's a broken promise, and it's seen as distracting from the economy. His numbers are terrible, but I'm sure no one tells him that.

It’s tough to see how they can get out of this and call it a win. Iran’s leadership is clearly trying to survive by outlasting the attack. Best case scenario some passive residual of the regime is left. Worst case probably some sort of civil war that destabilises the region. That’s Dubya territory

 

[Moxie]

It’s tough to see how they can get out of this and call it a win. Iran’s leadership is clearly trying to survive by outlasting the attack. Best case scenario some passive residual of the regime is left. Worst case probably some sort of civil war that destabilises the region. That’s Dubya territory

Agreed. And now they've named the son as supreme leader, so that doesn't move the needle. So much for the best case. Plus, the conflict now involves some 14 countries. How do we even just rake it back to Iran? It seems like a mess. Meaning "quagmire" could be on the horizon. And I'm not trying to be glib...people are dying.