2024 ATP General News

[MargaretMcAleer]

No one should be surprised! I warned you guys that today's players won't have durability to perform at their highest levels w/o breaking down! If they make a SF or Final, it's almost guaranteed they'll WD or not play as hard & get upset in the next event! I warned Alcaraz for wanting to make the highlight reel each time he plays! It's costing him! I'll bet any amount it's those drop shots & volleys that's causing him elbow issue! Taking the heat out of shots to stop it dead takes so much out of your arm; esp. on the BH side!

You have No Idea what you are talking about for starters,
This type of injury happens to any athlete who uses their forearm in a repetitive motion,it is a predisposed injury,
Also weight lighters, rowers are prone to this type of injury? as I have posted before, it isnt a new type of injury for any athlete, that you think is the New Gen of Players in tennis, that also includes tennis players, eg Alcaraz,!
Alcaraz should have rested his forearm,before playing Madrid, where he was the defending champion, he decided to play in Madrid, resulting in an edema, which is not uncommon when you have not rested your forearm, though with the right rest and treatment he will recover.

 

[Front242]

Alcaraz needs a girlfriend lol. Give that forearm a rest.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Alcaraz needs a girlfriend lol. Give that forearm a rest.

Thanks Dr Fronty you have solved the forearm problem

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Another withdrawal from Rome, Jannik Sinner has withdrawn, due to his hip injury, a big loss for the Italian tournament.
No 2 and No 3 ranked players have so far withdrawn, also doubtful is defending champion Medvedev, who had to retire in his match in Madrid with a right leg injury.
Jannik did post this message on Twitter ( I will translate into English)
" It is not easy to write this message but after speaking again with the doctors and specialists about my hip problems I have to announce that unfortunately I will not be able to play in Rome".

Rome Update:
OUT: Sinner
IN: Rinderknech
NEXT: Berrettini ( would free up a wild card)

 

[El Dude]

What I've learned from this thread is that Front considers a forearm and a human female interchangeable. Classy.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Jannik Sinner address's his hip injury ( source The Tennis Letter)
Sinner says he wont play Roland Garros if he is not healthy, taking care of his body is more important than anything else.
"With the MRI we saw something is not 100% okay.However, we have everything under control, if it dosent get 100% cured, I'll stop a little longer.Taking care of the body is much more important than anything else. We hope to recover as soon as possible.Preparation for Roland Garros will clearly not be optimal, not playing Rome before a Grand Slam.My team and I will do our best to get there with as high a percentage as possible to compete".

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Not surprised at this news, ( source The Tennis Letter)

Diego Schwartzman announcing that he will retire at the Buenos Aires tournament in February next year

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Reports in Austria that Dominic Thierm is planning to retire in Vienna this year.
Already started to tell his sponsors
Sad if true but not suprising ( source Jose Morgado@josemorgado)

 

[El Dude]

So we could be seeing Thiem, Murray, and Rafa retiring this year. I know nothing official on Rafa or Andy, but it seems more likely than not for both. I imagine Wawrinka isn't far off, and maybe Raonic and Nishikori, neither of whom have been able to come back to anything close to pre-pandemic levels.

As an aside, did Juan Martin Del Potro ever officially retire?

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

So we could be seeing Thiem, Murray, and Rafa retiring this year. I know nothing official on Rafa or Andy, but it seems more likely than not for both. I imagine Wawrinka isn't far off, and maybe Raonic and Nishikori, neither of whom have been able to come back to anything close to pre-pandemic levels.

As an aside, did Juan Martin Del Potro ever officially retire?

Not officially Del Potro hasnt retired he was trying to play at the USO in 2023, that didnt happen due to the fact his overall game wasnt up to playing at the level
Del Potro was seen recently in Madrid tournament, he did say he wished he could retire on his own terms, not because of his ongoing injuries

 

[the AntiPusher]

Reports in Austria that Dominic Thierm is planning to retire in Vienna this year.
Already started to tell his sponsors
Sad if true but not suprising ( source Jose Morgado@josemorgado)

Well you called it @MargaretMcAleer MM...I just don't understand why give up so young? I understand it's a tough life without the big money paychecks
..

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Well you called it @MargaretMcAleer MM...I just don't understand why give up so young? I understand it's a tough life without the big money paychecks

I feel Dom is making the right choice , he has tried coming back, his game is not what it used to be, having wrist problems for a tennis player is the worst, in terms of that is where initially you get your power from, he could not win a tournament, even at challenger level,
Lets face it it took him 8 years on the tour before making a major final, closing the gap on the elite was difficult. He won the USO at age 27.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Confirmation that Andy Murray will play at Roland Garros and then begin his grace court season in Stuttgart.Will return to action in Geneva first, where he received a wild card

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

BTW Dominic's Thiem manager and brother Moritz Thiem said that they will make a statement by the end of the week so there is no confusions about the impending rumors from the media of his retirement ( source Sky Sports Austria)

 

[the AntiPusher]

I feel Dom is making the right choice , he has tried coming back, his game is not what it used to be, having wrist problems for a tennis player is the worst, in terms of that is where initially you get your power from, he could not win a tournament, even at challenger level,
Lets face it it took him 8 years on the tour before making a major final, closing the gap on the elite was difficult. He won the USO at age 27.

That's why he should not retire..Thiem worked his ass off and if he was injured I could understand..this guy was the TRUE world number #3 just a few years ago..

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

That's why he should not retire..Thiem worked his ass off and if he was injured I could understand..this guy was the TRUE world number #3 just a few years ago..

Please take your Thiem tinted sunglasses off he has not been able to win a tournament since his return? from his wrist injury.? not even a challenger tournament,Theim injured his wrist again recently at the Estoril Open?
BTW Theim was ranked 3 in 2020, that was 4 years ago.
Theim has to play qualifers and again cannot get into a main draw, if he does he loses in the first round? he is 30 years old do you really want to see him struggling like this? quite frankly I don't.He has been losing to players ranked in the high 200s? in straight sets.
Theim has fallen out of the ATP Top 100.

 

[Fiero425]

That's why he should not retire..Thiem worked his ass off and if he was injured I could understand. This guy was the TRUE world #3 just a few years ago..

Some players aren't meant to return after serious injuries; that's a fact! Look at Haas & Del Po who are the poster children of this repetitive drama of an "injury condition" w/ subsequent returns! Again, we're conditioned to believe anything's possible b/c of the Big 3! They overcame injury; Nadal more than Fedovic, & came back to perform at a world class level! The competition is more steep than anytime in the past! We have a lot more true athletes who may not rise to greatness, but are quite good & will upset the world's best if they're not on their game! Tsitsipas, Zverev, Thiem, & others had to deal w/ Fedalovic, but they were pushed by other players as well! They've already been surpassd by the NG'rs Alcaraz & Sinner! Not sure where to put Medvedev who I believe has terribly underachieved, but has that one lone USO win in 2021! I tend to group him w/ Sascha & Stefanos! They won't be forgotten like the "Lost Gen" of Kei & Milos who were as injury prone as any players on tour! Their talent and abilities were truly wasted unfortunately! W/ Nadal, I think it's time to say "good-bye!" He's not overcoming injury as much as dealing w/ old age w/ a body that he pushed so much, he'll probably be in a wheelchair by 50! Of course w/ his $$ & modern medicine that's an exaggeration, but he's testing his future to this day by trying to play this one last Summer! Like Murray, he's still trying to play that same defensive game hoping to just outlast his opponent over beating the guy! It's idiotic! End RANT!

 

[the AntiPusher]

Some players aren't meant to return after serious injuries; that's a fact! Look at Haas & Del Po who are the poster children of this repetitive drama of an "injury condition" w/ subsequent returns! Again, we're conditioned to believe anything's possible b/c of the Big 3! They overcame injury; Nadal more than Fedovic, & came back to perform at a world class level! The competition is more steep than anytime in the past! We have a lot more true athletes who may not rise to greatness, but are quite good & will upset the world's best if they're not on their game! Tsitsipas, Zverev, Thiem, & others had to deal w/ Fedalovic, but they were pushed by other players as well! They've already been surpassd by the NG'rs Alcaraz & Sinner! Not sure where to put Medvedev who I believe has terribly underachieved, but has that one lone USO win in 2021! I tend to group him w/ Sascha & Stefanos! They won't be forgotten like the "Lost Gen" of Kei & Milos who were as injury prone as any players on tour! Their talent and abilities were truly wasted unfortunately! W/ Nadal, I think it's time to say "good-bye!" He's not overcoming injury as much as dealing w/ old age w/ a body that he pushed so much, he'll probably be in a wheelchair by 50! Of course w/ his $$ & modern medicine that's an exaggeration, but he's testing his future to this day by trying to play this one last Summer! Like Murray, he's still trying to play that same defensive game hoping to just outlast his opponent over beating the guy! It's idiotic! End RANT!

Good points fiero.. I saw pat Cash walking at the Western Southern open in Cincinnati 2019. He looked like he was in the most pain I ever seen a human being

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

AP,
Dont ask me again why Theim should retire okay, it is obvious, if you read my posts. Quite frankly I am over discussing it.
There will be a statement coming from his team by the end of the week according to Sky Sports Austria if you read my post above
I will be interested to hear from El Dude when he does retire ( this October ) where he is placed with his career results in line with other players

 

[PhiEaglesfan712]

I feel like the comeback at the 2020 US Open saved Dominic Thiem's legacy. If he doesn't complete the comeback, I feel like we'd be looking at not only Thiem, but Zverev, a lot differently. If Zverev holds on to win that match, their career comparison aren't even close, with Zverev having a clear advantage over Thiem. We'd also be questioning Thiem's mental toughness, instead of Zverev's (especially what would come later, with how Zverev was able to come back from his injuries a lot better than Thiem).