UK Politics Thread

[Moxie]

This is probably the most weird and disturbing thing I’ve read in a while. And the last few years have been weird.

Maybe it's the accents or everyone talking over each other, but how in the world can you tell that the women with the dog and the cops are arguing about this being about Muslims? To me, it's not clear what the problem is, at all.

 

[Federberg]

The fk…?

 

[brokenshoelace]

Maybe it's the accents or everyone talking over each other, but how in the world can you tell that the women with the dog and the cops are arguing about this being about Muslims? To me, it's not clear what the problem is, at all.

"The video depicts UK police asking a woman with a dog to leave a protest area amid heated arguments. No audio or reports confirm it's due to the dog being "haram" to Muslims. It likely stems from 2024 anti-immigration riots in Birmingham, where police separated groups for safety (per BBC and Reuters fact checks). The added narrative appears exaggerated for effect."

This is what Grok had to say.

Politics today are largely shaped by social media illiterate white boomers believing anything that reinforces their bigotry, and zero desire to fact check, of course.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Yeah, the UK colonized half the world so that they end up willingly offering their country to Muslims. Sure, that's what's happening...

 

[britbox]

Yeah, the UK colonized half the world so that they end up willingly offering their country to Muslims. Sure, that's what's happening...

It's a bit of a surface level interpretation when you consider that most of the forces behind colonisation didn't profess to like the idea of nation states, and have long since morphed into supranational global entities.

Nation states are a convenient pony to ride to further an agenda. If you examine the patterns of how the West destroyed the East (i.e. use Britain/The East India Company as a case study in relation to destroying China and India), then you;ll see the same patterns playing out on how the East is to destroy the West. Flood the target nations with drugs and subversion so a proportion of people literally hate their own nations and customs, and then use a "national" unified force to destroy them... Which countries are nationalistic and unified right now... yeah, China and Russia. Which countries are flooded with drugs and trojan horses from the inside... yes, pretty much every "western nation".

 

[Moxie]

"The video depicts UK police asking a woman with a dog to leave a protest area amid heated arguments. No audio or reports confirm it's due to the dog being "haram" to Muslims. It likely stems from 2024 anti-immigration riots in Birmingham, where police separated groups for safety (per BBC and Reuters fact checks). The added narrative appears exaggerated for effect."

This is what Grok had to say.

Politics today are largely shaped by social media illiterate white boomers believing anything that reinforces their bigotry, and zero desire to fact check, of course.

TBH, I did google that and learned that it was mostly a lot of drummed up BS.

But this is the 2nd time you've attributed this gullibility to "boomers." I'll give you that my people (Boomers) are fairly technologically illiterate, as a group, but do you really think that it's only 65+ year-olds falling for these things that are the problem? It seems to me that plenty of illiterate younger people fall for this crap all the time, too.

People (of all ages) don't seem to understand that just because you put text over something to tell you what it is, it doesn't change the video. Watch the video! And that audio can be added, which is completely separate. (In this particular video, when some guy randomly shouts out, "The UK loves you!" I'm guessing that was added from file audio.) And, of course, on top of it, that video can be manipulated. In this particular case, the video basically tells you nothing. Police activity for no discernible reason, and a woman with a dog who is pissed off for being re-routed?

 

[brokenshoelace]

TBH, I did google that and learned that it was mostly a lot of drummed up BS.

But this is the 2nd time you've attributed this gullibility to "boomers." I'll give you that my people (Boomers) are fairly technologically illiterate, as a group, but do you really think that it's only 65+ year-olds falling for these things that are the problem? It seems to me that plenty of illiterate younger people fall for this crap all the time, too.

People (of all ages) don't seem to understand that just because you put text over something to tell you what it is, it doesn't change the video. Watch the video! And that audio can be added, which is completely separate. (In this particular video, when some guy randomly shouts out, "The UK loves you!" I'm guessing that was added from file audio.) And, of course, on top of it, that video can be manipulated. In this particular case, the video basically tells you nothing. Police activity for no discernible reason, and a woman with a dog who is pissed off for being re-routed?

Obviously "boomers" is not meant to be taken literally, but yes, as a generation that once had it all and then fucked it up for everyone else, it does seem like boomers are very susceptible to doom and gloom and tend to fall for fear mongering. I'm sure they're hardly the only ones in that regard, but the stereotype of a white 60 something person gullibly falling for easily debunked social media videos tends to be an easy representation. Hardly going for pure accuracy, just venting.

 

[brokenshoelace]

It's a bit of a surface level interpretation when you consider that most of the forces behind colonisation didn't profess to like the idea of nation states, and have long since morphed into supranational global entities.

Nation states are a convenient pony to ride to further an agenda. If you examine the patterns of how the West destroyed the East (i.e. use Britain/The East India Company as a case study in relation to destroying China and India), then you;ll see the same patterns playing out on how the East is to destroy the West. Flood the target nations with drugs and subversion so a proportion of people literally hate their own nations and customs, and then use a "national" unified force to destroy them... Which countries are nationalistic and unified right now... yeah, China and Russia. Which countries are flooded with drugs and trojan horses from the inside... yes, pretty much every "western nation".

Well, I don't entirely agree with the above and believe it's a very one-sided outlook, but I can't say I completely disagree either. The part you're leaving out is Western governments absolutely ravaging the working class and now, the middle class through corruption, corporate greed, etc... and then finding an easy boogeyman in immigrants to blame.

 

[britbox]

Well, I don't entirely agree with the above and believe it's a very one-sided outlook, but I can't say I completely disagree either. The part you're leaving out is Western governments absolutely ravaging the working class and now, the middle class through corruption, corporate greed, etc... and then finding an easy boogeyman in immigrants to blame.

I'd agree with that too.