Premier League 2016-2017

Federberg

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I don't like Big Sam, never have to be honest... and yes, I can well believe there are issues with his integrity based on prior stuff... but that particular exchange with the fake businessmen sounded like he was just saying how rules can be, and are bypassed... in general conversation... he didn't seem to advocate it and was just saying 'how it is'... he was there to meet about a keynote speaking role, he has no role in player transfers because it doesn't happen at international level. As much as I don't like the guy and thought he was a little silly, I'm surprised it's worth the sack.

To be honest, I wouldn't have been bothered if they had just reprimanded him. I'm just speaking to their rational. Bear in mind this was before he'd even met the players. Frankly I would have been more inclined to bin him for gross stupidity, but then, I've never been a fan of his either (even though I actually think he gets a slightly unfair rap for his playing style. I mean anyone who can put Youri Djorkaeff and Jay Jay Okocha into the same 11, can't be that boring!)
 

britbox

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<tr> <td height="10"> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Liverpool </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">5</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">18</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">10</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">8</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk _ks" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">16</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np" data-mh="1px" style="max-height:1px"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">3</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Tottenham </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">6</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">4</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">0</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">10</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk _ks" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">14</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np" data-mh="1px" style="max-height:1px"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">4</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Everton </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">4</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">11</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">5</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">6</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk _ks" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">14</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np" data-mh="1px" style="max-height:1px"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">5</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Arsenal </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">6</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">4</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">15</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">8</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk _ks" data-mh="2.5em"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">13</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">6</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Man United </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">4</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">13</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">8</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">5</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">13</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">7</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Chelsea </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">4</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">12</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">9</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">13</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">8</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td>&nbsp;</td>
<td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Crystal Palace </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">11</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">8</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">11</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">9</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> West Brom </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">8</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">9</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">10</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Southampton </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">6</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">6</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">8</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">11</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Watford </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">12</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">13</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">-1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">8</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">12</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Bournemouth </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">6</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">11</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">-5</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">8</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">13</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Leicester City </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">6</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">8</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">11</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">-3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">14</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Burnley FC </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">6</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">5</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">8</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">-3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">15</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Hull City </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">4</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">14</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">-7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">16</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Middlesbrough </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">10</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">-3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">6</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">17</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Swansea City </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">5</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">6</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">12</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">-6</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">4</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">18</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> West Ham </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">1</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">5</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">8</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">17</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">-9</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">4</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">19</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Stoke City </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">0</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">4</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">5</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">16</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">-11</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">3</div> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="11"> <div class="_xk vkc_np xpdxpnd" data-mh="1px" style="max-height: 1px;"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr class="sol-tr-hstts"> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_gy xpdxpnd" data-mh="2em" style="max-height: 2em;"> <div class="sol-td-rank" style="padding:4px 0;text-align:left">20</div> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <table class="_uQh"> <tbody><tr> <td> <div class="_nvc"></div> </td> <td> <div class="_nvc _IWh"> Sunderland </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </div> </td> <td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">0</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">5</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">6</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">13</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">-7</div> </div> </td><td> <div class="vk_txt vk_bk xpdxpnd _ks" data-mh="2.5em" style="max-height: 2.5em;"> <div style="padding:4px 0;text-align:center">2</div> </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table>

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Lol! Are you posting this because your lot are second?
 

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The 7 biggest clubs in the country IMO (albeit without Newcastle, in the division below) occupying the Top 7 places.
 

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^Is Newcastle bigger than Aston Villa? Or even Sunderland? I'm not so sure you know
 

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Only in terms of stadium capacity. In terms of history it's not even close. Maybe if you're talking about fan base then perhaps in recent years you could say that, but I would have to look at the data.
 

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Only in terms of stadium capacity. In terms of history it's not even close. Maybe if you're talking about fan base then perhaps in recent years you could say that, but I would have to look at the data.

I wouldn't say they were miles apart in history Fberg, Newcastle have won 4 titles, Sunderland 6... and the Geordies have had a bigger fanbase going back to the dark ages with attendances even taking capacity into account... I think Newcastle are clearly the bigger club.
 

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Just read Joey Barton's autobiography "No Nonsense" - pretty good read. Not many people like Joey... but I always rated him as a footballer.
 

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I wouldn't say they were miles apart in history Fberg, Newcastle have won 4 titles, Sunderland 6... and the Geordies have had a bigger fanbase going back to the dark ages with attendances even taking capacity into account... I think Newcastle are clearly the bigger club.
Maybe. I don't have any data on Sunderland to be honest. But my impression is that Toon fans spend a lot of energy telling us how passionate, and how many of them there are.
 

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Just read Joey Barton's autobiography "No Nonsense" - pretty good read. Not many people like Joey... but I always rated him as a footballer.
I've always liked listening to him talk about issues. He's clearly an intelligent guy. A bit of a nutter sometimes though
 

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Looking to be a good competitive season... IMO, City, Liverpool or Spurs will win the title... and it would be huge for one of the latter 2, sleeping giants.

Nice mix at the top... United's drubbing at Chelsea was cool too, even though I dislike both clubs.
 

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Despite their recent slump I still think Man City will end up winning it all. They are the deepest and most talented side, and while I do think Pep is somewhat overrated, there can be no denying he's one of the world's best managers. One thing about him that bodes well for City, is that his style does lend itself to consistency and minimizes the risk of dropping points to mid table teams (which I really think is where leagues are won and lost) as few teams can handle the possession + attacking game that Guardiola teams play.

That said, City are no Bayern Munich, and they're certainly no Barcelona, so despite having some exceptional players at their disposal, they're not quite as suited to implement Pep's ideas as those two teams were. One clear problem they're facing is their inability to build-up play from the back, as Pep loves to do. In fact, he brought in Bravo and got rid of Joe Hart because of the former's ability to play with his feet and contribute to the build-up process. This has already led to way to many mistakes by both the goalkeeper and the defenders, and they have been proving costly. Pep may have to adjust a bit because this is proving to be quite risky.
 

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Bl00dy hell! That must have been some match at the Lane! I of course had to focus on the test rugby. Ireland - NZ was an absolute cracker. I kept getting alerts on my phone and with about 5 minutes to go the Spurs were 2 - 1 down. To see the final score come up as 3 - 2 to Spurs was a huge happy surprise. Get in!!!!!!
 

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jeepers! What happened to Liverpool? I checked the score and there was about 70mins gone with Liverpool up 3 - 1. Then when I looked at the final score they'd lost 4 - 3?

Bournemouth can be tough. They harried us when we went there. But this...
 

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Shocked.com - I tuned out in the second half to watch the Silver and Black Show (Oakland Raiders) and then went to bed... thinking it was done and dusted, Liverpool were cruising. Couldn't believe they lost...