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(03-Aug-2013 09:29 PM)Moxie629 Wrote:  ^ Thanks for highlighting that, herios. He's definitely one to keep an eye on. As to if anyone has made such a climb? If it's a good indication for his future, Rafa made pretty much the same leap between July 03 and Mar 04. You can see his rankings history here. Very similar rise, and not bad footsteps to be following in. (I didn't check anyone else out. Could be others.)

EDIT: I did look back over Djokovic, Murray and Federer. None of them made such a dramatic leap in such a short span of time. They rose more gradually.

Thanks, I thought so. The only difference is the age they did it. Now, I looked to Pablo's ranking history, it looks he had his first surge in 2011 at 20y, peaking at the end of that year ranked 136.
He played a few more events Jan. -Mar. 2012 (on HC, not as successful), but then it seems to me he had an injury or something, because he stopped playing until Oct. last year, thus he dropped down to 755 (ouch).
So basically he started to climb the mountain again 10 months ago and now he has gained it all back and some.
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(03-Aug-2013 09:14 PM)herios Wrote:  Something significant happens under the radar, with one young players who made some noise earlier this spring.
Pablo Carreno Busta, who surprisingly made the SF in Portugal while ranked outside the top 200, then made the main draw at RG and met Roger in his opener there, kept on playing on clay on the challenger tour.
He has played this week his 7th!!! event since RG, and almost every week kept on inching higher through the rankings, so that today with his win and qualification to the final in Segovia, he will be entering into the top 100 for the first time comes Monday.
So now, he has moved from 654 at the beginning of 2013 to 99 in 7 months. is there anyone who ever did such a climb?

Anyway, Spain adds a fresh face to the clay armada, and I think he will be a true clay courter who will have an impact on the tour pretty soon. He just turned 22 in July.

not quite the same but it got him comeback of the year award by atp...

in 2011 del potro went from 485 rank in feb to 11 rank by November.

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RE: Rankings
A review on the "jumpers" and "droppers" and I am sure tented will add those who I will forget among the "new career high" group.

Pablo Carreno-Busta wins Segovia challenger and he is the biggest jumper, gaining 20 spots: 111--->91, first time ever in the top 100.
In another interesting challenger final at Liberec, Jiri Vesely, who is the youngest in the top 100, just barely 20y, edges out F. Delbonis: 6-7, 7-6, 6-4 and both will make a new career high;
Vesely 98----> 81
Delbonis 63---->57

V. Pospisil wins the Vancouver challenger and makes also a new career high:
89----->71

Other big jumpers:
Tursunov 18 spots
Granollers 17.

the big "droppers" were:
Blake 22 spots
Pella 20
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RE: Rankings
(05-Aug-2013 09:40 AM)herios Wrote:  A review on the "jumpers" and "droppers" and I am sure tented will add those who I will forget among the "new career high" group.

Pablo Carreno-Busta wins Segovia challenger and he is the biggest jumper, gaining 20 spots: 111--->91, first time ever in the top 100.
In another interesting challenger final at Liberec, Jiri Vesely, who is the youngest in the top 100, just barely 20y, edges out F. Delbonis: 6-7, 7-6, 6-4 and both will make a new career high;
Vesely 98----> 81
Delbonis 63---->57

V. Pospisil wins the Vancouver challenger and makes also a new career high:
89----->71

Other big jumpers:
Tursunov 18 spots
Granollers 17.

the big "droppers" were:
Blake 22 spots
Pella 20

Also Delpo moved up to five on the race to London rankings! I think Fed is officially 7th there.
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(05-Aug-2013 12:38 PM)Riotbeard Wrote:  
(05-Aug-2013 09:40 AM)herios Wrote:  A review on the "jumpers" and "droppers" and I am sure tented will add those who I will forget among the "new career high" group.

Pablo Carreno-Busta wins Segovia challenger and he is the biggest jumper, gaining 20 spots: 111--->91, first time ever in the top 100.
In another interesting challenger final at Liberec, Jiri Vesely, who is the youngest in the top 100, just barely 20y, edges out F. Delbonis: 6-7, 7-6, 6-4 and both will make a new career high;
Vesely 98----> 81
Delbonis 63---->57

V. Pospisil wins the Vancouver challenger and makes also a new career high:
89----->71

Other big jumpers:
Tursunov 18 spots
Granollers 17.

the big "droppers" were:
Blake 22 spots
Pella 20

Also Delpo moved up to five on the race to London rankings! I think Fed is officially 7th there.

Yes, he is now in 7th position. If he does not get his act together,
he may not make it to WTF. Wake up Rog!

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RE: Rankings
New career highs for this week. Yet again, Delbonis makes the list.

Federico Delbonis -- 57 (+6)
Kenny de Schepper -- 67 (+2)
Vasek Pospisil -- 71 (+18)
Jiri Vesely -- 81 (+17)
Pablo Carreño Busta -- 91 (+20)
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if del potro wins montreal masters he goes above burdych and Federer in the world rank charts (probably).

Federer is not playing..is burdych playing ?.

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RE: Rankings
Roger's Number 5 ranking is safe for one more week. Now, it
is guaranteed that he will go in to cincy with No. 5 ranking.
We will see how he comes out of it.

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yes del potro and berdych either didn't play montreal/Toronto last year or lost early then as well,

so no change in 5, 6, 7 rank.

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(08-Aug-2013 10:20 PM)JesuslookslikeBorg. Wrote:  yes del potro and berdych either didn't play montreal/Toronto last year or lost early then as well,

so no change in 5, 6, 7 rank.

How embarrassing for Roger; depending on people losing early to hold onto rank of #5! Wow; how the mighty have fallen! As I've been saying, he used up everything he had to take that Wimbledon and #1 ranking for a few months! Let's hope he doesn't drop out of the top 10 by years' end!

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RE: Rankings
He cannot drop below 8 after Cincy, no matter what happens in
Cincy and so his seeding at USO will be in the 5 to 8 category.
This is now official. No scenario will make his ranking below 8 after
Cincy.

Remember that what happens in the week after Cincy will not
be taken into account for the purposes of seeding in USO.

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If Rafa wins his next round in Montreal, he passes Ferrer and takes the #3 spot. And he would then be within 1400 points of Murray for the #2 rank, with nothing to defend. (If he wins the tournament, he's within 1000 of Murray, and something over 2000 of Djokovic. Not outside of the realm of possibility. Keep your eyes on that rear-view mirror, boys!)
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(08-Aug-2013 11:49 PM)Moxie629 Wrote:  If Rafa wins his next round in Montreal, he passes Ferrer and takes the #3 spot. And he would then be within 1400 points of Murray for the #2 rank, with nothing to defend. (If he wins the tournament, he's within 1000 of Murray, and something over 2000 of Djokovic. Not outside of the realm of possibility. Keep your eyes on that rear-view mirror, boys!)

We all love you for your thinking and efforts around here darling, but "dream on!" Lay Down Laughing Clap No No Angel - The summer and fall is not Rafa's time, even when he was at his heights and healthy! He reminds me more of an older player trying to hang on other than an elite athlete! He hasn't impressed me at all with his play, barely squeaking through so far!

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(09-Aug-2013 10:22 AM)Fiero425 Wrote:  
(08-Aug-2013 11:49 PM)Moxie629 Wrote:  If Rafa wins his next round in Montreal, he passes Ferrer and takes the #3 spot. And he would then be within 1400 points of Murray for the #2 rank, with nothing to defend. (If he wins the tournament, he's within 1000 of Murray, and something over 2000 of Djokovic. Not outside of the realm of possibility. Keep your eyes on that rear-view mirror, boys!)

We all love you for your thinking and efforts around here darling, but "dream on!" Lay Down Laughing Clap No No Angel - The summer and fall is not Rafa's time, even when he was at his heights and healthy! He reminds me more of an older player trying to hang on other than an elite athlete! He hasn't impressed me at all with his play, barely squeaking through so far!

Fiero, darling, you can laugh at me for a fantasist if you like, but to say that Rafa has 'barely' squeaked through so far, are you referring to his 6-2 6-0 win over Levine? OK, JJ was a challenge, but he got less of a close-shave than Nole did last night over Istomin.

As to rankings, I'm only doing the math. IF Rafa were to win here, he'd be less than a 1000 points from Murray...who is defending 2000 at the USO. Even if Andy makes the finals but fails to defend, he loses 800 points. Djokovic is defending final points at the USO (1200), wins here and Shanghai (1000 ea.,) Beijing (500) and WTF (1500.) Now, I know this coming part of the year isn't usually Rafa's best, but he's certainly won tournaments, and, in any case...I'll say it again...he's defending zero points. With some good results and 'a little help from his friends,' he could gain a lot of ground on them. Just sayin'...
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(09-Aug-2013 03:10 PM)Moxie629 Wrote:  
(09-Aug-2013 10:22 AM)Fiero425 Wrote:  
(08-Aug-2013 11:49 PM)Moxie629 Wrote:  If Rafa wins his next round in Montreal, he passes Ferrer and takes the #3 spot. And he would then be within 1400 points of Murray for the #2 rank, with nothing to defend. (If he wins the tournament, he's within 1000 of Murray, and something over 2000 of Djokovic. Not outside of the realm of possibility. Keep your eyes on that rear-view mirror, boys!)

We all love you for your thinking and efforts around here darling, but "dream on!" Lay Down Laughing Clap No No Angel - The summer and fall is not Rafa's time, even when he was at his heights and healthy! He reminds me more of an older player trying to hang on other than an elite athlete! He hasn't impressed me at all with his play, barely squeaking through so far!

Fiero, darling, you can laugh at me for a fantasist if you like, but to say that Rafa has 'barely' squeaked through so far, are you referring to his 6-2 6-0 win over Levine? OK, JJ was a challenge, but he got less of a close-shave than Nole did last night over Istomin.

As to rankings, I'm only doing the math. IF Rafa were to win here, he'd be less than a 1000 points from Murray...who is defending 2000 at the USO. Even if Andy makes the finals but fails to defend, he loses 800 points. Djokovic is defending final points at the USO (1200), wins here and Shanghai (1000 ea.,) Beijing (500) and WTF (1500.) Now, I know this coming part of the year isn't usually Rafa's best, but he's certainly won tournaments, and, in any case...I'll say it again...he's defending zero points. With some good results and 'a little help from his friends,' he could gain a lot of ground on them. Just sayin'...

It does seem like people have forgotten the 2012 aussie final. Rafa has played incredible hard court tennis fairly recently. He has more hard court slams than andy as well... He has adjustments to make of sure, but discount Rafa at your own risk.
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RE: Rankings
With Richie going down today to Novak he was unable to defend his points for the RU last year in Canada, thus he slips to 10, allowing Stan Wawrinka to move up to 9, Stan equaling his best ranking in his career.
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(09-Aug-2013 06:34 PM)herios Wrote:  With Richie going down today to Novak he was unable to defend his points for the RU last year in Canada, thus he slips to 10, allowing Stan Wawrinka to move up to 9, Stan equaling his best ranking in his career.

And I believe if Raonic wins the tournament, he would be No. 9, which would push Wawrinka right back down.
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IMO, Wawrinka is at his high watermark. A week or two swanning around, but this is as good as it gets for him.
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(09-Aug-2013 06:55 PM)Moxie629 Wrote:  IMO, Wawrinka is at his high watermark. A week or two swanning around, but this is as good as it gets for him.

Yup. I reckon so too.
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So Rafa does get back to #3! I know we want to talk about other than the top guys on this thread, but I will take "droigt de signorina' on this one. Smile
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