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RE: Never cease to amaze me
(04-Feb-2017 06:38 PM)Kieran Wrote:  
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(04-Feb-2017 04:37 PM)Kieran Wrote:  More or less, this. Good post, Dude. Why play that victim card, just based upon assumptions? It's a form of reverse prejudice in itself...

I don't get why play the victim card..the sisters haven't said a thing..they have been exceptional role models in response the numerous incidents that have unfortunately been associated with them. Kieran, reverse racism thinking is not necessary...

I'm not accusing the WS of reverse racism, brother...

ok. What's the reverse racism comment. Maybe I misunderstood your comments
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RE: Never cease to amaze me
(04-Feb-2017 08:29 PM)the AntiPusher Wrote:  
(04-Feb-2017 07:27 PM)freedomsmom Wrote:  
(03-Feb-2017 10:53 PM)the AntiPusher Wrote:  I don't think you are completely comprehending what I posted....it's just an opinion..where there's been questions about her being durable..However i don't know what's in the mind of a racially bias individuals against Serena's or Venus 's accomplishments..
I completely understand what you are saying. Ironically, you don't recognize the talk about Serena questionable durability does not stand up to the fact Serena is three times more accomplished than any former or current peer. LOL.
It's precisely why discussing Serena's wins is viewed by some as a opportunity to spew scorn and derision. Twice as good for half the credit. A black code that goes all the way back to the founding of openly racist socially acceptable give me white liberty or death, America.

again..you really aren't comprehending what I posted. My post isn't trying to justify a bias towards Serena but what is being used to lessen her accomplishments.BTW,everyone knows I am proSerena so if you looking to ignite a anti Williams sisters argument, I am not a very good candidate for that rubbish.
Whether you are for or against Serena does not matter. Actually no one had to arm twist you into parroting rubbish about Serenas questionable longevitiy.
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RE: Never cease to amaze me
(04-Feb-2017 09:12 PM)the AntiPusher Wrote:  
(04-Feb-2017 06:38 PM)Kieran Wrote:  
(04-Feb-2017 06:04 PM)the AntiPusher Wrote:  I don't get why play the victim card..the sisters haven't said a thing..they have been exceptional role models in response the numerous incidents that have unfortunately been associated with them. Kieran, reverse racism thinking is not necessary...

I'm not accusing the WS of reverse racism, brother...

ok. What's the reverse racism comment. Maybe I misunderstood your comments

I'm talking about the OP, and anybody else who "assumes" that whenever we don't bow down before Serena and declare her the goatess that we automatically do it because we're racist. This in itself is a form of reverse prejudice. There are good arguments for many players to be declared goatess, just the same as in the men's game, and given that it's only a hypothetical position and arguments can flow either way, to draw the racist card in this instant is only based upon prejudicial assumptions that when I (for example) think Martina is the greatest I've seen, that say this out of some racist attitude against Serena. It's a very offensive and low level suggestion...

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RE: Never cease to amaze me
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(04-Feb-2017 09:30 PM)freedomsmom Wrote:  
(04-Feb-2017 08:29 PM)the AntiPusher Wrote:  
(04-Feb-2017 07:27 PM)freedomsmom Wrote:  I completely understand what you are saying. Ironically, you don't recognize the talk about Serena questionable durability does not stand up to the fact Serena is three times more accomplished than any former or current peer. LOL.
It's precisely why discussing Serena's wins is viewed by some as a opportunity to spew scorn and derision. Twice as good for half the credit. A black code that goes all the way back to the founding of openly racist socially acceptable give me white liberty or death, America.

again..you really aren't comprehending what I posted. My post isn't trying to justify a bias towards Serena but what is being used to lessen her accomplishments.BTW,everyone knows I am proSerena so if you looking to ignite a anti Williams sisters argument, I am not a very good candidate for that rubbish.
Whether you are for or against Serena does not matter. Actually no one had to arm twist you into parroting rubbish about Serenas questionable longevitiy.
I didn't parrot rubbish or questioned her longevity but this isn't your issue,.you have an axe to grind..so be it..nothing more from me because I not continue to go down this rabbit hole with you on this topic.
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RE: Never cease to amaze me
(05-Feb-2017 03:22 AM)Kieran Wrote:  
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(04-Feb-2017 06:38 PM)Kieran Wrote:  I'm not accusing the WS of reverse racism, brother...

ok. What's the reverse racism comment. Maybe I misunderstood your comments

I'm talking about the OP, and anybody else who "assumes" that whenever we don't bow down before Serena and declare her the goatess that we automatically do it because we're racist. This in itself is a form of reverse prejudice. There are good arguments for many players to be declared goatess, just the same as in the men's game, and given that it's only a hypothetical position and arguments can flow either way, to draw the racist card in this instant is only based upon prejudicial assumptions that when I (for example) think Martina is the greatest I've seen, that say this out of some racist attitude against Serena. It's a very offensive and low level suggestion...
Okay.. your comment was targeted towards some individuals in particular which is your prerogative...however not all of the OP thinks just because someone doesn't feel Serena is the greatest is a racist.,that would be a very narrow way of thinking.. if the OP feels that Serena is the greatest or the GOAT then it's their opinion..if you feel it's Martina then that's your opinion..there can be competitive dialogue or banter.. now when the OP wants to interject Race or racist into it, this is where the players are not being judge by their accomplishments but by their ethnicity...if it was me I wouldn't add fuel to that fire with the term reverse racism because really harder to comprehend then racism, IMO..

Brother ..I am going back to the ATP threads..Lay Down Laughing
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RE: Never cease to amaze me
(05-Feb-2017 03:56 AM)the AntiPusher Wrote:  
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(04-Feb-2017 09:12 PM)the AntiPusher Wrote:  ok. What's the reverse racism comment. Maybe I misunderstood your comments

I'm talking about the OP, and anybody else who "assumes" that whenever we don't bow down before Serena and declare her the goatess that we automatically do it because we're racist. This in itself is a form of reverse prejudice. There are good arguments for many players to be declared goatess, just the same as in the men's game, and given that it's only a hypothetical position and arguments can flow either way, to draw the racist card in this instant is only based upon prejudicial assumptions that when I (for example) think Martina is the greatest I've seen, that say this out of some racist attitude against Serena. It's a very offensive and low level suggestion...
Okay.. your comment was targeted towards some individuals in particular which is your prerogative...however not all of the OP thinks just because someone doesn't feel Serena is the greatest is a racist.,that would be a very narrow way of thinking.. if the OP feels that Serena is the greatest or the GOAT then it's their opinion..if you feel it's Martina then that's your opinion..there can be competitive dialogue or banter.. now when the OP wants to interject Race or racist into it, this is where the players are not being judge by their accomplishments but by their ethnicity... if it was me I wouldn't add fuel to that fire with the term reverse racism because really harder to comprehend then racism, IMO..

Brother ..I am going back to the ATP threads..Lay Down Laughing

I didn't use the term "reverse racism" brother, that was you misquoting me... Wink

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"I'm talking about the OP, and anybody else who "assumes" that whenever we don't bow down before Serena and declare her the goatess that we automatically do it because we're racist."

No one said unless you bow down before Serena and declare her the goatess or you will be called racist. LOL at your use of pretense/ dishonesty as a persuasive rhetorical device.
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RE: Never cease to amaze me
(05-Feb-2017 11:36 AM)freedomsmom Wrote:  "I'm talking about the OP, and anybody else who "assumes" that whenever we don't bow down before Serena and declare her the goatess that we automatically do it because we're racist."

No one said unless you bow down before Serena and declare her the goatess or you will be called racist. LOL at your use of pretense/ dishonesty as a persuasive rhetorical device.

LOLOL at your complete inability to scan a phrase and understand what's being said. I dunno, maybe what I said applies to you and you feel enfeebled by it...

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RE: Never cease to amaze me
(05-Feb-2017 11:58 AM)Kieran Wrote:  
(05-Feb-2017 11:36 AM)freedomsmom Wrote:  "I'm talking about the OP, and anybody else who "assumes" that whenever we don't bow down before Serena and declare her the goatess that we automatically do it because we're racist."

No one said unless you bow down before Serena and declare her the goatess or you will be called racist. LOL at your use of pretense/ dishonesty as a persuasive rhetorical device.

LOLOL at your complete inability to scan a phrase and understand what's being said. I dunno, maybe what I said applies to you and you feel enfeebled by it...
I do understand your use of the victim card "being called racist" as a rhetorical device. I said so. Take a moment to think your thoughts through before you post reply. You are embarassing yourself.
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RE: Never cease to amaze me
(05-Feb-2017 01:39 PM)freedomsmom Wrote:  
(05-Feb-2017 11:58 AM)Kieran Wrote:  
(05-Feb-2017 11:36 AM)freedomsmom Wrote:  "I'm talking about the OP, and anybody else who "assumes" that whenever we don't bow down before Serena and declare her the goatess that we automatically do it because we're racist."

No one said unless you bow down before Serena and declare her the goatess or you will be called racist. LOL at your use of pretense/ dishonesty as a persuasive rhetorical device.

LOLOL at your complete inability to scan a phrase and understand what's being said. I dunno, maybe what I said applies to you and you feel enfeebled by it...
I do understand your use of the victim card "being called racist" as a rhetorical device. I said so. Take a moment to think your thoughts through before you post reply. You are embarassing yourself.

Bleh. This kind of fifteen year olds anguish is a bit silly. Go back and read from the start. Take your time. You might even understand... Smile

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RE: Never cease to amaze me
(05-Feb-2017 05:46 AM)Kieran Wrote:  
(05-Feb-2017 03:56 AM)the AntiPusher Wrote:  
(05-Feb-2017 03:22 AM)Kieran Wrote:  I'm talking about the OP, and anybody else who "assumes" that whenever we don't bow down before Serena and declare her the goatess that we automatically do it because we're racist. This in itself is a form of reverse prejudice. There are good arguments for many players to be declared goatess, just the same as in the men's game, and given that it's only a hypothetical position and arguments can flow either way, to draw the racist card in this instant is only based upon prejudicial assumptions that when I (for example) think Martina is the greatest I've seen, that say this out of some racist attitude against Serena. It's a very offensive and low level suggestion...
Okay.. your comment was targeted towards some individuals in particular which is your prerogative...however not all of the OP thinks just because someone doesn't feel Serena is the greatest is a racist.,that would be a very narrow way of thinking.. if the OP feels that Serena is the greatest or the GOAT then it's their opinion..if you feel it's Martina then that's your opinion..there can be competitive dialogue or banter.. now when the OP wants to interject Race or racist into it, this is where the players are not being judge by their accomplishments but by their ethnicity... if it was me I wouldn't add fuel to that fire with the term reverse racism because really harder to comprehend then racism, IMO..

Brother ..I am going back to the ATP threads..Lay Down Laughing

I didn't use the term "reverse racism" brother, that was you misquoting me... Wink
i apologize..you said reverse prejudice not reverse racism
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