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(07-Mar-2016 03:51 PM)hoergren Wrote:  
(07-Mar-2016 03:39 PM)Fiero425 Wrote:  
(07-Mar-2016 03:33 PM)Fefe26 Wrote:  She failed a drug test. Details please

I just saw repeat of news-conference! I guess she has been taking some kind of legal medication for the last 10 years, but made illegal on the tour this year! She failed a drug test at AO and takes full responsibility for her actions; hopes not to end her career like this and wants to come back from potential suspension! No No Cover Ras

Well don't be too naive - read about MELODONIUM and where it's originated from Latvia. You can see what's happened to the Russian athletes - they are banned from the Olympic Games because of systematic drug use and many times different drugs combined. Melodonium in 2005 a report demonstrated that the combined treatment of meldonium and lisinopril may improve the quality of life and exercise capacity. People around Sharapova has known this and acted from this IMHONo No

But this is different to the Russian athletes who failed drug tests. Melodonium was legal when she began to take it. So her taking it up unilt it was banned isn't suspect. It was within the rules.

The strange part is how she didn't know it had become illegal...

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That $h1t is dope, man Tongue
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(07-Mar-2016 04:01 PM)Front242 Wrote:  That $h1t is dope, man Tongue

I'm no fan, but give her the benefit of the doubt for now! Tongue Ras Angel

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(07-Mar-2016 04:01 PM)Front242 Wrote:  That $h1t is dope, man Tongue

And vice versa! Lay Down Laughing

I wonder what kinda jail time she'll get. A two year ban, is that the limit? Popcorn Cover

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(07-Mar-2016 03:56 PM)Kieran Wrote:  But this is different to the Russian athletes who failed drug tests. Melodonium was legal when she began to take it. So her taking it up unilt it was banned isn't suspect. It was within the rules.

The strange part is how she didn't know it had become illegal...

Well - again don't tell me they (people around her) didn't read the report from 2005. And yes it's "legal" until banned. Then let me compare it with cyclists - "funny" to see how many astma patients there are among them. Astma - they shouldn't ride a bike as pros.

Maria is the unlucky part and she has to take her quarantine - then she can get rid of her shoulder injury and come back clean. 10 years on a "lie" - well No NoNo NoNo No

Just read rhis article about the stuff

https://jakegshelley.wordpress.com/2016/...ildronate/
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(07-Mar-2016 04:07 PM)hoergren Wrote:  
(07-Mar-2016 03:56 PM)Kieran Wrote:  But this is different to the Russian athletes who failed drug tests. Melodonium was legal when she began to take it. So her taking it up unilt it was banned isn't suspect. It was within the rules.

The strange part is how she didn't know it had become illegal...

Well - again don't tell me they (people around her) didn't read the report from 2005. And yes it's "legal" until banned. Then let me compare it with cyclists - "funny" to see how many astma patients there are among them. Astma - they shouldn't ride a bike as pros.

Maria is the unlucky part and she has to take her quarantine - then she can get rid of her shoulder injury and come back clean. 10 years on a "lie" - well No NoNo NoNo No

No, again you're missing the point. The drug was legal when she first took it, then they banned it and she still took it. She says it was a mistake on her part. This is all the intel we have for now, so to say she was "10 years on a lie" is just you speculating, but with little to base your speculation on.

I think she can be criticised enough for what came out of her own mouth regarding this, without us taking raw speculation as fact. The next stage in this is a statement from the WTA, and we'll see if that tallies with Maria's version...

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So Ana Ivanovic will get the AO 2008 trophy now Big Smile

Also Sharapova beat Bencic at the AO this year AngryAngryAngryAngryAngry Not fair for Belinda Sad
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I know I'm a little p..... about this - sorry to be so negative but:

Meldonium was added to the WADA list of banned substances on January 1st, 2016 because of “evidence of its use by athletes with the intention of enhancing performance.”

read the whole article here:

https://jakegshelley.wordpress.com/2016/...ildronate/
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Plausible. You take something all you life, it is legal, then they ban it, you still take it because people around you are stupid and they do not follow the rule changes like they are supposed to...

I am willing to believe it for now.

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(07-Mar-2016 04:15 PM)Tennisman12345 Wrote:  So Ana Ivanovic will get the AO 2008 trophy now Big Smile

Also Sharapova beat Bencic at the AO this year AngryAngryAngryAngryAngry Not fair for Belinda Sad

No titles or wins before January 1st 2016 will change.

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Taking it for health reasons for 10 years. ROFL! Throw her under the bus. Pathetic excuse. Good to see the authorities have stepped it up and let's hope others are caught too because it's hardly like she's the only one. It's plain as day obvious the sport is full of dopers and about time they're clamping down on it. Can only hope Fuentes' blood bags aren't destroyed. Anyway, back to Sharadopa, the drug has a 2 month half-life so the dumb b1tch messed up there and likely took it well before the AO and couldn't get it out of her system in time. Serves her right for being so dense anyway. If you're gonna dope in November with a drug that stays in your system 2 months you're an idiot.
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(07-Mar-2016 04:19 PM)1972Murat Wrote:  Plausible. You take something all you life, it is legal, then they ban it, you still take it because people around you are stupid and they do not follow the rule changes like they are supposed to...

I am willing to believe it for now.

The highlighted part of this is the part I have a problem with, from Maria's perspective. I mean, doesn't she have an expensive team that looks into this stuff regularly, to make sure she's not going to make a mistake? This is the funny part of it. Not so much a "stupid mistake", as a criminal mistake. Taking it when it was legal isn't dodgy, as you say...

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She was also silently banned and the forearm nonsense was bs same as Cilic's fake injury they made when he was already banned. Sharadopa was charged on March 2nd. Oh yeah but it's 'cos of her forearm injury she can't play Indian Wells. Pull the other one lol.
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(07-Mar-2016 04:41 PM)Front242 Wrote:  She was also silently banned and the forearm nonsense was bs same as Cilic's fake injury they made when he was already banned. Sharadopa was charged on March 2nd. Oh yeah but it's 'cos of her forearm injury she can't play Indian Wells. Pull the other one lol.

She wasn't silently banned, and nor was Cilic. They have to go through a thing called Due Process. So Maria was charged on March 2 - that doesn't say that she was "found guilty and immediately banned." In fact, she waived her right to a B sample test, which would then have to take place. The fact that tennis players remove themselves from the tour while due process is taking place isn't evidence of silent bans...

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(07-Mar-2016 04:41 PM)Front242 Wrote:  She was also silently banned and the forearm nonsense was bs same as Cilic's fake injury they made when he was already banned. Sharadopa was charged on March 2nd. Oh yeah but it's 'cos of her forearm injury she can't play Indian Wells. Pull the other one lol.

She wasn't silently banned, and nor was Cilic. They have to go through a thing called Due Process. So Maria was charged on March 2 - that doesn't say that she was "found guilty and immediately banned." In fact, she waived her right to a B sample test, which would then have to take place. The fact that tennis players remove themselves from the tour while due process is taking place isn't evidence of silent bans...

It's a silent ban. What the hell else is the reason for Cilic's fake injury bs that they clearly made up? He wasn't playing for quite some time and was already banned. The media released the story months later. Hence, silent ban. For the record they have also silently banned tennis officials so the ITF/ATP/WTA are a complete joke and silents bans are 100% NOT a myth.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/fe...bling-scam
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(07-Mar-2016 04:49 PM)Front242 Wrote:  
(07-Mar-2016 04:45 PM)Kieran Wrote:  
(07-Mar-2016 04:41 PM)Front242 Wrote:  She was also silently banned and the forearm nonsense was bs same as Cilic's fake injury they made when he was already banned. Sharadopa was charged on March 2nd. Oh yeah but it's 'cos of her forearm injury she can't play Indian Wells. Pull the other one lol.

She wasn't silently banned, and nor was Cilic. They have to go through a thing called Due Process. So Maria was charged on March 2 - that doesn't say that she was "found guilty and immediately banned." In fact, she waived her right to a B sample test, which would then have to take place. The fact that tennis players remove themselves from the tour while due process is taking place isn't evidence of silent bans...

It's a silent ban. What the hell else is the reason for Cilic's fake injury bs that they clearly made up? He wasn't playing for quite some time and was already banned. The media released the story months later. Hence, silent ban. For the record they have also silently banned tennis officials so the ITF/ATP/WTA are a complete joke and silents bans are 100% NOT a myth.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/fe...bling-scam

At the time Cilic removed himself from tennis, citing an "injury", he was still being investigated but hadn't been found guilty of anything. Due process was being followed. But I'm sure he knew he was facing a ban.

With Maria, she was only "charged" on March 2, and she waived the right to have her B sample tested. There's no silent ban there...

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(07-Mar-2016 04:55 PM)Kieran Wrote:  
(07-Mar-2016 04:49 PM)Front242 Wrote:  
(07-Mar-2016 04:45 PM)Kieran Wrote:  She wasn't silently banned, and nor was Cilic. They have to go through a thing called Due Process. So Maria was charged on March 2 - that doesn't say that she was "found guilty and immediately banned." In fact, she waived her right to a B sample test, which would then have to take place. The fact that tennis players remove themselves from the tour while due process is taking place isn't evidence of silent bans...

It's a silent ban. What the hell else is the reason for Cilic's fake injury bs that they clearly made up? He wasn't playing for quite some time and was already banned. The media released the story months later. Hence, silent ban. For the record they have also silently banned tennis officials so the ITF/ATP/WTA are a complete joke and silents bans are 100% NOT a myth.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/fe...bling-scam

At the time Cilic removed himself from tennis, citing an "injury", he was still being investigated but hadn't been found guilty of anything. Due process was being followed. But I'm sure he knew he was facing a ban.

With Maria, she was only "charged" on March 2, and she waived the right to have her B sample tested. There's no silent ban there...

Yeah and if it's all so above board then why are they all claiming bs fake injuries? Charged on March 2nd and hasn't played since January. Wonder why. Unless people want to actually be so naive as to think she skipped the other tournaments 'cos of a forearm injury... Cover
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Wished she had retired. Tennis has so much BS this year , with match fixing and doping the Sport is a joke Lay Down Laughing
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(07-Mar-2016 04:59 PM)Front242 Wrote:  Yeah and if it's all so above board then why are they all claiming bs fake injuries? Charged on March 2nd and hasn't played since January. Wonder why. Unless people want to actually be so naive as to think she skipped the other tournaments 'cos of a forearm injury... Cover

Of course they use fake injuries. I'm sure that she knew something was in the wind soon after Oz, but it took until March 2nd til she was charged. After this, she would have the option to defend herself, which she waived, and came public. But it's important to note that somebody being charged with an offence isn't the same thing as them being found guilty. And when they remove themselves from play to deal with this, that isn't the same thing as a silent ban.

Maria Sharapova didn't serve a silent ban, based upon what we've been told...

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I agree it's a joke. A joke that it took them till now to actually catch anyone remotely famous.

There's a job going here if anyone's interested. For real. Tennis Anti-Doping Programme Assistant for the ITF.

http://www.uksport.gov.uk/jobs-in-sport/...-UKSP-6608
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