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The Big 4 since the start of 2012
Let's talk about some stats since the start of 2012. I feel like a lot of people think about the Big 4 in terms of their history, but not necessarily what's happened recently. I can update the stats as the year goes on. Any other stats people want to see?

Grand Slams
Djokovic: 2 (2 hard)
Nadal:1 (1 red clay)
Federer:1 (1 grass)
Murray:1 (1 hard)

ATP Titles
Nadal: 10 (1 hard, 9 red clay)
Djokovic: 9 (7 hard, 1 red clay, 1 indoor hard)
Federer: 6 (3 hard, 1 blue clay, 1 grass, 1 indoor hard)
Murray: 5 (4 hard, 1 grass)

Head-to-Head

Hard
Nadal: (0-1) vs. Djokovic, (0-0) vs. Murray, (2-1) vs. Federer: (2-2)
Djokovic: (1-0) vs. Nadal, (5-2) vs. Murray, (1-1) vs. Federer: (7-3)
Murray: (0-0) vs. Nadal, (2-5) vs. Djokovic, (2-2) vs. Federer: (4-7)
Federer: (1-2) vs. Nadal, (1-1) vs. Djokovic, (2-2) vs. Murray: (4-5)

Clay
Nadal: (3-1) vs. Djokovic, (0-0) vs. Murray, (1-0) vs. Federer: (4-1)
Djokovic: (1-3) vs. Nadal, (0-0) vs. Murray, (2-0) vs. Federer: (3-3)
Murray: (0-0) vs. Nadal, (0-0) vs. Djokovic, (0-0) vs. Federer: (0-0)
Federer: (0-1) vs. Nadal, (0-2) vs. Djokovic, (0-0) vs. Murray: (0-3)

Grass
Nadal: (0-0) vs. Djokovic, (0-0) vs. Murray, (0-0) vs. Federer: (0-0)
Djokovic: (0-0) vs. Nadal, (0-1) vs. Murray, (0-1) vs. Federer: (0-2)
Murray: (0-0) vs. Nadal, (1-0) vs. Djokovic, (1-1) vs. Federer: (2-1)
Federer: (0-1) vs. Nadal, (1-0) vs. Djokovic, (1-1) vs. Murray: (2-1)

Overall
Nadal: (3-2) vs. Djokovic, (0-0) vs. Murray, (3-1) vs. Federer: (6-3)
Djokovic: (2-3) vs. Nadal, (5-3) vs. Murray, (3-2) vs. Federer: (10-8)
Murray: (0-0) vs. Nadal, (3-5) vs. Djokovic, (3-3) vs. Federer: (6-8)
Federer: (1-3) vs. Nadal, (2-3) vs. Djokovic, (3-3) vs. Murray: (6-9)

The biggest rivalry as expected has been Djokovic vs. Murray with 8 matches. Interestingly, Murray hasn't played Nadal since 2011 (makes sense with Nadal's time away and majority of play on clay). For me, I've always thought Nadal vs. Murray would be an easy Nadal win, but we haven't really seen Nadal against the new and improved Murray with Lendl's coaching influence. Also, Murray hasn't played the other 3 on clay and it's looking like he won't at the French, either. That's 2 years without seeing one of the other 3... It is impressive, though, that Nadal has the most titles given he's been out for 7 months since the start of 2012.
(This post was last modified: 20-May-2013 10:58 PM by drm025.)
20-May-2013 03:44 PM
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RE: The Big 4 since the start of 2012
Interesting numbers you posted here, I am a number freak!

Look forward to seeing more numbers from you.
I wonder, how many of those 10 events Nadal won was on clay?
20-May-2013 06:28 PM
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RE: The Big 4 since the start of 2012
(20-May-2013 06:28 PM)Kiu Wrote:  Interesting numbers you posted here, I am a number freak!

Look forward to seeing more numbers from you.
I wonder, how many of those 10 events Nadal won was on clay?

Yes, interesting. Thanks, drm025! Nadal has won 6, and I believe 4 were on clay.
20-May-2013 06:32 PM
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RE: The Big 4 since the start of 2012
Moxie, you're only counting ATP 1000s and Slams. The OP is including all titles, which break down as follows:

Slams: 1 (1 clay)
ATP 1000: 5 (4 clay)
ATP 500: 3 (3 clay)
ATP 250: 2 (2 clay)

So all but one of the 10 titles, Indian Wells, were on clay.
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RE: The Big 4 since the start of 2012
(20-May-2013 07:23 PM)El Dude Wrote:  Moxie, you're only counting ATP 1000s and Slams. The OP is including all titles, which break down as follows:

Slams: 1 (1 clay)
ATP 1000: 5 (4 clay)
ATP 500: 3 (3 clay)
ATP 250: 2 (2 clay)

So all but one of the 10 titles, Indian Wells, were on clay.

Yes, well-spotted. I was thinking of the H2H #s v. Big 4. But, in any case, of course they would be nearly all on clay, since Rafa has been absent since 2nd round of Wimbledon in 2012, and came back after the AO, so he's almost only played on clay in the last 17 months.
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RE: The Big 4 since the start of 2012
(20-May-2013 06:28 PM)Kiu Wrote:  Interesting numbers you posted here, I am a number freak!

Look forward to seeing more numbers from you.
I wonder, how many of those 10 events Nadal won was on clay?

I will update the stats to include court types. I could for the head to head too if people are interested.
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RE: The Big 4 since the start of 2012
(20-May-2013 10:33 PM)drm025 Wrote:  
(20-May-2013 06:28 PM)Kiu Wrote:  Interesting numbers you posted here, I am a number freak!

Look forward to seeing more numbers from you.
I wonder, how many of those 10 events Nadal won was on clay?

I will update the stats to include court types. I could for the head to head too if people are interested.


Oh, yes...do! We love stats around here! Smile
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RE: The Big 4 since the start of 2012
(20-May-2013 11:07 PM)Moxie629 Wrote:  
(20-May-2013 10:33 PM)drm025 Wrote:  
(20-May-2013 06:28 PM)Kiu Wrote:  Interesting numbers you posted here, I am a number freak!

Look forward to seeing more numbers from you.
I wonder, how many of those 10 events Nadal won was on clay?

I will update the stats to include court types. I could for the head to head too if people are interested.


Oh, yes...do! We love stats around here! Smile

Stats are updated. I love doing stats, so let me know what you guys want!!
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